Author Topic: Death of Dar (Read 1422 times)

muckmaw · « **Reply #45 on:** July 07, 2003, 12:03:52 PM »

Teamwork exists.

You just to be on the lookout for it.

We did that very mission about 3 weeks ago.

Mixed bag of players...about 1/2 MAW and the rest other knights.

You'll see more when I have more time to play.

Arlo · « **Reply #46 on:** July 07, 2003, 12:33:20 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo.. i'm not the one saying that I'm not having trouble finding fights... you are.. looking at your stats it appears that you are.. atl leas you are not finding fights the way I would like to find fights.

*Chuckle*

All I said was .... "You can't find a fight without dar?". To which you felt compelled to look up my stats to prove I can't find a fight based on my low kph. All you had to say was, "Yeah I can" or "No I can't." But your "championing" the absolute need for dar (or the game dies because the "average" player can't live without it) based on your interpretation of my stats in comparison to yours was kinda stupid.

But that's ok, I understand how easily threatened you are over nothing at times.

Overlag · « **Reply #47 on:** July 07, 2003, 01:19:55 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Teamwork exists.

You just to be on the lookout for it.

We did that very mission about 3 weeks ago.

Mixed bag of players...about 1/2 MAW and the rest other knights.

You'll see more when I have more time to play.

yeah if you link some squads together for a mission its very good.

like all the maw's, 68th and VMF323 etc...thats great, when it happens

lazs2 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 07, 2003, 02:36:02 PM »

arlo... ya gotta admit that you saying you have no trouble finding a fight even without dar would carry a lot more weight if you actually knew what "finding a fight" meant.
lazs

Rude · « **Reply #49 on:** July 07, 2003, 03:06:01 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Ah my friend, Rude! I like the way you draw references to RL - when it suits. This is a *game*, so all manner of gameplay concessions have to be made.

But since you brought it up, I'm fairly confident that each individual airfield did not have radar in WW2. When we entered the war on 3rd Sept,1939, Germany didn't have radar at all. We had radar in the Battle of Britain, but there were only a few radar stations serving a multitude of airfields in the south of England. You might have seen the BoB movie. Near the beginning, a Stuka raid destroys the radar facility at Ventnor, and one of the other radar bases was destroyed, to which Michael Redgrave said "Then we're blind". The enemy did not have to bomb each individual field to completely knock out our radar.

I did'nt say individual fields Beetle....we already have that in place....I suggested radar stations as you've mentioned in your post and reference to the movie....kinda simple.

beet1e · « **Reply #50 on:** July 07, 2003, 04:29:47 PM »

Rude, the point I was trying to make was that a single radar station (or maybe 2-3) covered the entire south of England in that BoB. OK, in AH we have one HQ radar which affects ALL fields, but I don't think it's so wide of the mark, once natural gaming concessions have been taken into account.

muckmaw · « **Reply #51 on:** July 07, 2003, 04:45:34 PM »

Frankly, I think it would be more conducive to gaming to have 3-4 radar stations protecting a country.

Perhaps one station for each ZONE.

It would give the strat more things to bomb, and we would only be able to concentrate on one ZONE at a time, really.

I would be only interested in bombing the radar of the zone we were advancing on.

I like this idea, Rude.

Arlo · « **Reply #52 on:** July 07, 2003, 05:03:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
arlo... ya gotta admit that you saying you have no trouble finding a fight even without dar would carry a lot more weight if you actually knew what "finding a fight" meant.
lazs

It carries weight just fine. Here ... let me tell you how it's done.

(Dramatic music)

Oh NO! The evil (insert chesspiece of choice) has destroyed our HQ thereby rendering our global positioning satellite useless! Oh woe is us! Damn the evil (insert chesspiece of choice). What are we to do?! *gnash teeth*

I know! I'll show them by logging!

(Arloman enters the scene)

Relax fellow (insert chesspiece of choice)! There's no need to log! Where were you fighting last?

At A(insert number of choice).

Were there a lot of enemy planes there?

Why yes, Arloman, there WERE a lot of enemy planes there!

Then either fly back there or ask on your country channel if there's still enemy planes there that you can shoot down/get shot down by?

Thank you, Arloman! But what if there aren't?

Try asking on your country channel where the bad guys are.

Say! I never thought of that, Arloman!

And perhaps the flashing bases will give you a clue, too ... although they could be being assaulted by vehicles instead of planes.

Thanks, I may give that a try! But ... Arloman ... how will I be able to locate nearby bad guys if I can't see them on my GPS laptop?

You must look for them through the various views offered from the cockpit. You may have to move your joystick some to get better views.

Arloman, you're the greatest! What would we ever do without you?!

No problem fellow (insert chesspiece of choice)! It's my duty and I'm proud ... nay honored to be of assistance!

lazs2 · « **Reply #53 on:** July 07, 2003, 05:13:57 PM »

arlo... you can allways find either enemy planes or enemy ground vehicles... with no dar you might have to fly two sectors to do it tho. Base being attacked may be one pee 51 at 35K.... when you get to a field 2 sectors away you may find that it has 20 defenders all circling the ack or it is nothing but osties.. this is not conducive to haveing a good time to most people.
lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #54 on:** July 07, 2003, 05:25:20 PM »

Don't worry, Lazs ... there will always be furballs to repeatedly rush headlong into and the loss of dar shouldn't affect one that's already at a full head of steam. And if dar is down already, I'm sure a furball can still form. Pick an enema base nearby and go attack it in force... chances are if enough of one side picks on another side that there'll be plenty of airplanes to shoot at in no time at all.

If the ack daunts you ... stay out of it. There'll be a brave soul or four that'll decide to wander past it. And maybe backing up a tad to get the furball perfectly positioned between bases with no real threat to either base will give you the nirvana you seek.

Besides, there seem to be some players who live for resupply so the loss of dar should be only for twenty minutes or so. Hell, that could even be a good time to go take a pee, grab a smoke (if ya smoke), eat a quick bite and possibly interact with the family.

See? Loss of dar isn't nearly as catastrophic as some would make it out to be. You're welcome.

lazs2 · « **Reply #55 on:** July 08, 2003, 08:32:10 AM »

right arlo... won't cause any life crises either way but.... better with dar than without. More fun is better... in a game.
lazs

Arlo · « **Reply #56 on:** July 08, 2003, 12:51:41 PM »

Dar does make it easier. And that's not a slam on dar.

I guess the real issue is .... the universal effect taking out the HQ has. I tend to agree that it's a bit too much. It almost sounds like a modern day command and control decapitation via taking out communications.