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« on: July 03, 2003, 03:34:48 PM »
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that "all men are created equal"

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow, this ground -- The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.

It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2003, 03:36:41 PM »
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The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here


Honest Abe????

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2003, 04:51:18 PM »
Yeah ... honest ... what others called him ... and probably rightly so.

They never called him "Prophet Abe" or "Psychic Hotline Abe" or "Miss Abe." ;)

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2003, 04:52:01 PM »
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Yeah ... honest ...

He never claimed to be "Prophet Abe" or "Psychic Hotline Abe" or "Miss Abe." ;)


LOL!

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2003, 05:14:33 PM »
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heheheheheh!

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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2003, 06:13:15 PM »
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Smart move. Well ... smarter than pullin' it out to begin with. `Sides .... lures generally aren't bricks tied to twine. ;)

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2003, 07:04:00 PM »
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lures generally aren't bricks tied to twine. ;)


You've never gone fishing with a Southern Californian before have you?

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2003, 03:17:37 AM »
John9001


I memorized the Gettysburg Address back in Jr. High school.  Everyone got a chance to memorize a poem or speech and stand up in front of class to recite it.  (I was 'into' the Civil War history thing, and I chose Lincoln's speech.)  It was for a competition, and was required.  The big competition was in front of the student body...must have been nerve wracking for the finalists.  I remember the student who won recited "Oh Captain! My Captain!"  Here 'tis for those interested:



Walt Whitman (1819–1892).  Leaves of Grass.  1900.

193. O Captain! My Captain!



1

O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;  
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;  
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,  
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:  
    But O heart! heart! heart!          5
      O the bleeding drops of red,  
        Where on the deck my Captain lies,  
          Fallen cold and dead.  
   
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O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;  
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills;   10
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding;  
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;  
    Here Captain! dear father!  
      This arm beneath your head;  
        It is some dream that on the deck,   15
          You’ve fallen cold and dead.  
   
3

My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;  
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;  
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;  
From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won;   20
    Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!  
      But I, with mournful tread,  
        Walk the deck my Captain lies,  
          Fallen cold and dead.





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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2003, 03:19:22 AM »
Lincoln, the greatest President we've ever had.

I carried a copy of the Gettysburg Address in my wallet for years.  Then somebody stole my wallet.

Abe, you saved our country.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2003, 03:28:13 AM »
Here's a good one for the Fourth of July.  




"OLD IRONSIDES" POEM PAGE


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OLD IRONSIDES
By Oliver Wendell Holmes
September 16, 1830

Ay, tear her tattered ensign down!
Long has it waved on high,
And many an eye has danced to see
That banner in the sky;
Beneath it rung the battle shout,
And burst the cannon's roar;
The meteor of the ocean air
Shall sweep the clouds no more.

Her deck, once red with heroes' blood,
Where knelt the vanquished foe,
When winds were hurrying o'er the flood,
And waves were white below,
No more shall feel the victor's tread,
Or know the conquered knee;
The harpies of the shore shall pluck
The eagle of the sea!

Oh, better that her shattered bulk
Should sink beneath the wave;
Her thunders shook the mighty deep,
And there should be her grave;
Nail to the mast her holy flag,
Set every threadbare sail,
And give her to the god of storms,
The lightning and the gale!



AUTHOR'S NOTE
By Oliver Wendell Holmes

This was the popular name by which the frigate Constitution was known. The poem was first printed in the Boston Daily Advertiser, at the time when it was proposed to break up the old ship as unfit for service. I subjoin the paragraph which led to the writing of the poem. It is from the Advertiser of Tuesday, September 14, 1830:--

"Old Ironsides.--- It has been affirmed upon good authority that the Secretary of the Navy has recommended to the Board of Navy Commissioners to dispose of the frigate Constitution. Since it has been understood that such a step was in contemplation we have heard but one opinion expressed, and that in decided disapprobation of the measure. Such a national object of interest, so endeared to our national pride as Old Ironsides is, should never by any act of our government cease to belong to the Navy, so long as our country is to be found upon the map of nations. In England it was lately determined by the Admiralty to cut the Victory, a one-hundred gun ship (which it will be recollected bore the flag of Lord Nelson at the battle of Trafalgar), down to a seventy-four, but so loud were the lamentations of the people upon the proposed measure that the intention was abandoned. We confidently anticipate that the Secretary of the Navy will in like manner consult the general wish in regard to the Constitution, and either let her remain in ordinary or rebuild her whenever the public service may require."--New York Journal of Commerce.



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Happy Fourth of July!!!  Now I'm getting the heck outta here.:D





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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2003, 03:56:25 AM »
Leslie,

That's the one I memorized in 6th grade.  The winner in my class was the young lady who memorized "O Captain! My Captain!".

Funny that they should both show up on this page.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2003, 04:00:51 AM »
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From the Advertiser of Tuesday, September 14, 1830:--

"Old Ironsides.--- It has been affirmed upon good authority that the Secretary of the Navy has recommended to the Board of Navy Commissioners to dispose of the frigate Constitution. Since it has been understood that such a step was in contemplation we have heard but one opinion expressed, and that in decided disapprobation of the measure. Such a national object of interest, so endeared to our national pride as Old Ironsides is, should never by any act of our government cease to belong to the Navy, so long as our country is to be found upon the map of nations. In England it was lately determined by the Admiralty to cut the Victory, a one-hundred gun ship (which it will be recollected bore the flag of Lord Nelson at the battle of Trafalgar), down to a seventy-four, but so loud were the lamentations of the people upon the proposed measure that the intention was abandoned. We confidently anticipate that the Secretary of the Navy will in like manner consult the general wish in regard to the Constitution, and either let her remain in ordinary or rebuild her whenever the public service may require."--New York Journal of Commerce.


It is interesting to note that the HMS Victory and USS Constitution are the two oldest commisioned ships in the world.

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