Maximum speed for each fighter at 500ft

[Minotaur]

I liked the 205 when I flew it.  It had the feel of a P-51 crossed with a Spitfire.  However; I have not flown it enough to make any judgements.

I will say this.  The sight is off.  Guns fire C/L, but the sight is too far right.  Far enough right to make shots totally miss on the left.  Is this historically correct?

I missed one kill in my 1st flight.  It should have been a "gimmee" total ambush kill(low six non-manuvering d150).  That was when I realized the sight was off.  The player sure woke up fast after I laid a 4 sec burst past their left window.  

I have since modified the sight so the tracers shoot down the middle of the sight hole and not a big deal.

Mino

[Pyro]

Thanks for the tests, I did a spot check on some of your figures.  I couldn't get that much speed out of the Spit.  It does look like we do have a discrepency in the Spit's airspeed indicator, but it was showing slower.  The 109 figure was really slow too and I checked it and got about the same result.  WEP performance is off for some reason.



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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations

[-lynx-]

(final kick at a poor defenseless dead horse - I promise to shut up and go away quietly after that ):

Fishu - did you consider before testing that full load of Pony fuel may weigh close to La-5 dry weight? The poor thing, after all weighted just 2,800 kgs... Oh those deceptive %% of fuel

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-lynx-
13 Sqn RAF

[Hristo]

 

The 109 figure was really slow too and I checked it and got about the same result. WEP performance is off for some reason.

Yes, please, make it faster. The beer is on me  

[-ik-]

wow, the Spit9 is a heck of a lot faster than you'd think. I've read 312mph max for a Spit9 on the deck.

[Fishu]

Pyro: I Did check Spitfire again with 12.7mm and 7.62mm gun loads and 75%, I got both times 150mph to 340mph (TAS) at 500ft in 2 minutes with wep.

[juzz]

I was bored, so I did some high altitude top speed tests     All planes tested with 100% fuel and ammo loads.

Plane(guns) - TAS at 25000ft with WEP on.

P-51D(6x.50) - 435mph
Bf109G-10(2x13mm,1x20mm) - 425mph
Spitfire MkIX(2x20mm,2x.50) - 415mph
F4U-1D - 410mph
La-5FN - 400mph
C.205(2x12.7mm,2x20mm) - 400mph *retest*
FW190A-8(2x13mm,4x20mm) - 380mph
N1K2-J - 350mph
B17G - n/t
C-47 - 230mph(20,000ft)  

I suspect the FW190A-8 is a bit slow? Maybe the N1K2-J too. Then again, both engines did have a reputation for losing power at high altitude.

[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 12-13-1999).]

[gatt]

Juzz,

the C.205 is slow as well. Her max speed at 24,000ft was 399mph TAS, no WEP. This is an official Macchi data.

Gatt

P.S.: ah, the C.205 max speed on the deck is, IMHO, pretty accurate. The real one got about 325mph TAS, no WEP.


[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 12-13-1999).]

[Hristo]

Note that at some altitudes (low) TAS marker is visibly behind the needle (IAS) in 109.

With this inaccuracy al results must be taken with caution.

[juzz]

Hmmm, I must have done something wrong with the Macchi the first time, gear down or something like that...

BTW: I just realised, if you use .time 12 00 60 you can use the plane's cockpit clock as a timer for climb tests etc...  

[gatt]

Juzz,

could your *magic* retest bring the Macchi from her poor 2,900ft/min to the right 3,300ft/min?   Ok, dont mind I'm flak happy.

[juzz]

If in doubt, try it out! It does do 400mph(on WEP though  ) And now I have my handy "Aces High analogue clock timer" worked out, I can do some *magic* climb testing. I'll see what I can do  

[214CaveJ]

I can't speak historically about the macchi, cause I dinnae know about it til now, but I think the AH bird is a pretty good turner/close base defender.  In a desperate attempt to keep the nits out of field 24 I took the macchi up cause I'd heard people saying it was a good turner.  I turned with 3 nits, a pony, a 190, and a spit (maybe a 4th was there, never was sure =).  The spit retreated west, whether damage or fuel I dinnae.  Took the pony down and I suckered the 190 into a face full of ack =)  Probably just a 5 minute dance, but it felt like an hour, and Fishu in the tower saying "How are you still alive and flying?" dinane help any =)