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Offline rc51

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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2003, 11:55:38 PM »
Get over it people.
there is but one race.
THE HUMAN RACE

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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2003, 06:32:29 AM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
And MT...how EXACTLY would a woman "spread her chromosones" if not by giving birth?

You may answer now.



Steve, read about it.  It's all true.  And no I'm not saying at there were 7 women and only 1 of em gave birth, I'm saying that out of those 60,000 offspring from only 7 different women spread out from the Middle East into Europe and since all those thousands of years ago the people descended from 6 of em have died out.  Maybe they didnt like each other.

We're all one big not so happy family.

Except Africans.  Africans have a waaaay more varied genetic make up than the rest of the world, see in places like South Africa there were tribes who kept to themselves until the British moved in in the 1800s.  The rest of the worlds gene pool seems to be very bland in comparision, but we're very well stirred.


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« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2003, 08:33:20 AM »
On the last refinance of my house I was asked "what race?"   I replied... "what is popular right now?"   she said "American indian"..  I said, "put me down for that".    She you cann't do that if you aren't an indian and I told her to go ahead and prove ai wasn't  she conceded that I had a good point and marked me down for American indian.

MT be careful.. if we all come from one woman then there is no need for affirmative action.

Oh... was that woman light skinned or dark skinned?  did she look like some white model or like oprah or like something in between?

Think I'll pass on this theory and wait a decade or so for the next one.
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2003, 10:14:51 AM »
Somebody say race?

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« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2003, 10:30:31 AM »
There is only one race Human. Everything else is just bullchit.
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« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2003, 11:49:22 AM »
*starts handing out mirrors to lots of ppl*

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« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2003, 12:16:03 PM »
Urchin: Yea, there is such a thing as race.

 Depending on your definition. If your definition of a "race" is a "large inbred extended family with specific gene allele frequensy distribution", then there is. Of course it's anybody's private decision which treshholds to use as "substabtial". In some respects you can have the whole humanity as one race, in others you can delineate hundreds of distinct ethnicities.

Does it really matter? I don't think so, everyone is pretty much the same genetically.

Does the alleged 1-2 standard deviations difference in intelligence matter? It's not really a trifle like the skin color that is the cause of all the controvercy, right?

The real difference is the difference in culture that springs from the difference in race.

 Than again, what kind of difference in culture would we expect from populations with differing cognitive abilities if those differences proved to be true?
 If the hereditary difference of 2 standard deviations is real, what kind of culture would a population develop in which 50% are capable of graduating a college compared to a population where less than 50% of population is capable of graduating a hight school, occasional genius nonwithstanding?

 The urgency of verifying or refuting those assertions is very real. If there is no such difference in intelligence, the actual causes of disparity must be studied and dealt with.
 If there is a difference in intelligence between races/ethnicities, then the affirmative action policies aimed at representation proportionate to the relative sizes of the populations cannot work and should be abandoned and replaced with policies intended to ameliorate the results of disparities or, more futuristically, to promote genetically-based selection/manipulation of progeny.

 That would mean a huge loss of taxpayer's money and political linfluence for some people, so all the exitement surrounding the topic is understandable.

 miko

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« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2003, 01:57:27 PM »
"I have no race prejudices, and I think I have no color prejudices or caste prejudices nor creed prejudices. Indeed I know it. I can stand any society. All that I care to know is that a man is a human being--that is enough for me; he can't be any worse."

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« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2003, 01:59:05 PM »
Actually, this discussion has no place on our board.  I apologize for it getting started, and missing it.
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