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Offline Citabria

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« on: July 15, 2003, 11:28:44 PM »
1. The first German serviceman killed in the war was killed by the Japanese (China, 1937)

2. The first American serviceman killed was killed by the Russians (Finland 1940).

3. The highest ranking American killed was Lt. Gen. Lesley McNair, killed by the US Army Air Corps.

4. The youngest US serviceman was 12 year old Calvin Graham, USN. He was wounded in combat and given a Dishonorable Discharge for lying about his age. (His benefits were later restored by act of Congress).

5. At the time of Pearl Harbor, the top US Navy command was called CINCUS (pronounced “sink us”), the shoulder patch of the US Army’s 45th Infantry division was the swastika, and Hitler’s private train was named “Amerika”. All three were soon changed for PR purposes.

6. More US servicemen died in the Air Corps that the Marine Corps. While completing the required 30 missions, your chance of being killed was 71%. Not that bombers were helpless. A B-17 carried 4 tons of bombs and 1.5 tons of machine gun ammo. The US 8th Air Force shot down 6,098 fighter planes, 1 for every 12,700 shots fired.

7. Germany’s power grid was much more vulnerable than realized. One estimate is that if just 1% of the bombs dropped on German industry had instead been dropped on power plants, German industry would have collapsed.

8. Generally speaking, there was no such thing as an average fighter pilot. You were either an ace or a target. For instance, Japanese ace Hiroyoshi Nishizawa shot down over 80 planes. He died while a passenger on a cargo plane.

9. It was a common practice on fighter planes to load every 5th found with a tracer round to aid in aiming. That was a mistake. The tracers had different ballistics so (at long range) if your tracers were hitting the target, 80% of your rounds were missing. Worse yet, the tracers instantly told your enemy he was under fire and from which direction. Worst of all was the practice of loading a string of tracers at the end of the belt to tell you that you were out of ammo. That was definitely not something you wanted to tell the enemy. Units that stopped using tracers saw their success rate nearly double and their loss rate go down.

10. When allied armies reached the Rhine, the first thing men did was pee in it. This was pretty universal from the lowest private to Winston Churchill (who made a big show of it) and Gen. Patton (who had himself photographed in the act).

11. German Me-264 bombers were capable of bombing New York City but it wasn’t worth the effort.

12. A number of air crewmen died of farts. (ascending to 20,000 ft. in an un-pressurized aircraft causes intestinal gas to expand 300%!)

13. The Russians destroyed over 500 German aircraft by ramming them in midair (they also sometimes cleared minefields by marching over them). “It takes a brave man not to be a hero in the Red Army”. Joseph Stalin

14. The US Army had more ships that the US Navy.

15. The German Air Force had 22 infantry divisions, 2 armor divisions, and 11 paratroop divisions. None of them were capable of airborne operations. The German Army had paratroops who WERE capable of airborne operations.

16. When the US Army landed in North Africa, among the equipment brought ashore were 3 complete Coca Cola bottling plants.

17. Among the first “Germans” captured at Normandy were several Koreans. They had been forced to fight for the Japanese Army until they were captured by the Russians and forced to fight for the Russian Army until they were captured by the Germans and forced to fight for the German Army until they were capture by the US Army.
 
18. The Graf Spee never sank, The scuttling attempt failed and the ship was bought by the British. On board was Germany’s newest radar system.

19. One of Japan’s methods of destroying tanks was to bury a very large artillery shell with on ly the nose exposed. When a tank came near the enough a soldier would whack the shell with a hammer. “Lack of weapons is no excuse for defeat.” – Lt. Gen. Mataguchi

20. Following a massive naval bombardment, 35,000 US and Canadian troops stormed ashore at Kiska. 21 troops were killed in the fire-fight. It would have been worse if there had been Japanese on the island.

21. The MISS ME was an unarmed Piper Cub. While spotting for US artillery her pilot saw a similar German plane doing the same thing. He dove on the German plane and he and his co-pilot fired their pistols damaging the German plane enough that it had to make a forced landing. Whereupon they landed and took the Germans prisoner. It is unknown where they put them since the MISS ME only had two seats.

22. Most members of the Waffen SS were not German.

23. The only nation that Germany declared war on was the USA.
 
24. During the Japanese attack on Hong Kong, British officers objected to Canadian infantrymen taking up positions in the officer’s mess. No enlisted men allowed!

25. Nuclear physicist Niels Bohr was rescued in the nick of time from German occupied Denmark. While Danish resistance fighters provided covering fire he ran out the back door of his home stopping momentarily to grab a beer bottle full of precious “heavy water”. He finally reached England still clutching the bottle, which contained beer. Perhaps some German drank the heavy water…
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Offline Rutilant

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2003, 11:50:49 PM »
LOL, good stuff. :D

Offline Wadke

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2003, 11:57:02 PM »
nice Read Fester ty
Really wierd is how the countries that fought together each killed one of their own allies' soldiers

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2003, 03:05:24 PM »
Interesting info.  Another tidbit is the first German aircraft shot down by the RAF in WWII was by an American-built Lockheed Hudson bomber -- Oct. 8, 1939, over Jutland.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2003, 03:14:03 PM »
Sounds like someone's been reading, "Dirty Little Secrets of WWII."  I also have that book, pretty interesting reading.

Tells one important factor of war.  Logistics and organization are two of the most important factors in presenting an effective fighting force.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2003, 04:00:01 PM »
another interesting bit

the canadians were the ONLY people to acheive there primary objective for the D-day landings...

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2003, 04:52:25 PM »
18. The Graf Spee never sank, The scuttling attempt failed and the ship was bought by the British. On board was Germany’s newest radar system.

The BS meter is at MAX !

The Graf Spee very much sank. The top of the ship was still above water and the Brits may have climbed onboard and dismantled some of the radar gear, but to say it never sank and they bought it is a huge stretch. See this website

Makes me wonder about the veracity of the rest of your "facts".

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2003, 05:08:21 PM »
Thnx for the reading on the Graf Spee.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2003, 06:26:21 PM »
maybe it should be called "Interesting ww2 storys"

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2003, 06:35:06 PM »
I'm interested in where you got that information, Vorticon.  As I remember it, the goal was to invade Normandy and secure enough of a position to allow more troops to land.  Last I checked, this happened across the board, British, American, and Canadian forces all secured their respective beachheads.

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2003, 07:06:31 PM »
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Originally posted by mos
I'm interested in where you got that information, Vorticon.  As I remember it, the goal was to invade Normandy and secure enough of a position to allow more troops to land.  Last I checked, this happened across the board, British, American, and Canadian forces all secured their respective beachheads.


The British failed to capture Caen which was one of there objectives for D-Day.
Monty said he would capture it on the first day, it took him alot longer.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2003, 08:45:58 PM »
Didn't the 2nd Ranger Battalion also achieve its goal of taking Point du Hoc?  Granted, the guns that were supposed to be there were moved somewhere else prior to the invasion, but they did take the position.

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2003, 09:24:50 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2003, 09:35:43 PM »
The first U.S. soldier killed in World War II was actually a Navy serviceman who died when a Japanese shell accidently struck his ship.  This was 1937.

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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2003, 07:03:23 AM »
7. Germany’s power grid was much more vulnerable than realized. One estimate is that if just 1% of the bombs dropped on German industry had instead been dropped on power plants, German industry would have collapsed.

Albert Speer commented after the war that the allied bombing campaign over germany was an issue, but didn't bring down armament production as much as everyone thought, what was more of a factor was having to keep 10,000 8.8 artillery pieces that could have been used to fight russian armor on the eastern front but instead had to be placed in germany where it really had little effect on the bomber formations other than symbolic puffs of smoke around the B-17's.. The allied Bomber campaign basically opened a second front that Hitler had to throw resources at that were needed elsewhere..

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