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Offline Citabria

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Request for regenerative steering for stationary tanks
« on: July 18, 2003, 10:12:52 PM »
despite its size and weight. Tigers, like all German tanks, used regenerative steering, hydraulically operated - the separate tracks could be turned in opposite directions at the same time, so the Tiger I could neutral steer (pivoting in place) , and completely turn around in a distance of 3.44 meters (11.28ft). This used to take by surprise many unlucky enemy crews!


http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1.htm

heres the tigers gun sight too but i have no idea how it works.

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2003, 10:19:04 PM »
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The commander ordered the target selection, type of ammunition, and range. The gunner observed the tracer and the strike of the round and reported his observations to the commander, who then ordered corrections. To quickly traverse onto a target, the Tiger I was outfitted with a hydraulic motor for the turret drive. The hydraulic drive traversed the turret at a maximum rate of 360 degrees in 60 seconds, dependent on the engine speed. Placing the target on the point of a triangle allowed the gunner to aim without obstructing the view of the target. The triangle height and separation distances in mils were used as an aid in estimating the range to the target, by comparing them with the size of the target. Tiger gunners knew the size of their targets from target tables and later, by practice, instinctively knew distances. The pattern in the right reticule also contained the 7 triangles plus adjustable range scales that allowed the gunner to register the exact range to the target. The gunner adjusted the range through this sight by lowering or raising the gun to set the aiming sight again on target. The range scale was graduated at 100 meter intervals out to a range of 4,000 meters for the APCBC and APCR rounds, and up to 6,000 meters for the HE rounds.

The 88 mm KwK 36L/56 gun had a very high muzzle velocity and the shell traveled in a stretched arc, which gave the Tiger I more advantages than just penetration power. Besides providing a higher penetration power it also allowed a higher margin of error in range guessing, because the gunner could guess wrong up to 200 meters and still hit the target, since aiming too high simply raised the striking point by less than a meter, too little an error to miss a 3 meter high tank when aimed at its center. Under combat situations, judging from the Tiger units action reports, the most effective engagement range for the Tiger I was between 800 and 1,200 - 1,500 meters, and kills beyond 2,000 meters were considered lucky hits.
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Offline john9001

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Request for regenerative steering for stationary tanks
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2003, 10:40:10 PM »
all tanks could go one track ahead and other track back and turn in their own length.

Offline Zanth

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Request for regenerative steering for stationary tanks
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2003, 02:30:38 AM »
Warbirds had that gun sight working couple years ago.  Maybe they could buy the code?

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2003, 03:33:24 AM »
it would be great if they could make the tank rotate when not moving from the gunners position the same way it does now when the tank is moving using rudder pedals
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2003, 03:52:14 AM »
WWIIOL have that German gun sight working.

Citabria, you mentioned you didn't know how it worked.  It's basically a dial - it would rotate anti-clockwise to set the distance of the target.  In doing so the triangle in the centre would move downwards.  Since the scale is 0-40, I would assume this is 0-4000 metres.  The chevrons next to the triangle are there to assist hitting a moving target and/or to help when you're on uneven camber.

The right hand sight is the 88mm main gun; the left hand sight is the co-axial MG with it's own range markers.

Doh, just read the bit you quoted from the website!

Here's a screenie from WWIIOL firing a HEAT round from a Pnzr IV.D - it's perched on top of a hill, at a camber, hence having to firing off centre.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2003, 04:14:25 AM by Replicant »
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Offline WestyAH

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2003, 08:10:57 AM »
Replicant, that's the WWIIO 9mm Luger pistol gunsite.