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Offline SOB

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« Reply #60 on: July 18, 2003, 12:45:37 PM »
So, you and the author really don't have any point then.  Just as 100 athiests can have 100 different views, so can 100 catholics...unless you think all catholics live strictly by the edict of the church.  The ones to don't follow the edicts either can't or don't because they pick and choose what to believe and/or follow.  And who's to say that athiests have it harder because they don't have a book that spells out common sense for them?


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« Reply #61 on: July 18, 2003, 02:41:14 PM »
no... sob... no one is saying that.   The author is saying that athiests get bogged down.   He is correct too by my observation..  Athiests have to draw on their religious background in order to have basic morals and then... If they wish to be different from religious teachings...they have to make all new rules.   Making new rules is difficult and time consuming and fraught with contradiction and paradox.

No one is saying who is right or wrong.... Only how it is.
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« Reply #62 on: July 18, 2003, 02:58:27 PM »
My point is that most religious types suffer through the same process, choosing which rules to follow (generally the common sense rules) and which rules to modify or do away with entirely.  I'm not saying who's right or wrong either, since neither way of life is right or wrong.  


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« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2003, 06:16:37 PM »
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My point is that most religious types suffer through the same process,

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Heh last time I saw the Catholic Church had no problems in choosing whats right or wrong. As long as they're a choir-boy its perfectly ok :D

I don't know anyone who's 'bogged' down by the atheist beliefs. In fact the third largest religion in the world (Buddhism) is doing just fine without a deity. Lazs you're choosing examples where other factors come to be (such as being nuts) and it doesn't matter whether you follow a deity or not (see above example).

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« Reply #64 on: July 18, 2003, 11:20:03 PM »
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No one is saying who is right or wrong.... Only how it is.


No, you're saying what you think it is.  I'm an atheist, and I never have any trouble deciding what I think is right and wrong, no matter how grey the area.    If anything, a religious type would have a harder time because they need to figure out what someone ELSE (God) thinks is right and wrong.

I have no problem being an atheist, and I know I'm a good enough guy.  I give to charity, I had a wheelchair ramp built for my neighbor this week who has no money, I'm nice to children and I don't litter.  Who could ask for anything more?
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« Reply #65 on: July 18, 2003, 11:21:57 PM »
Careful... you don't want to squash the great christian myth that atheists aren't good people.
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« Reply #66 on: July 18, 2003, 11:24:08 PM »
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Who could ask for anything more?


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