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Offline Ack-Ack

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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2003, 04:39:45 PM »
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what this looks like to me that ien owns the rights to pat.6,042,477  I dont know if they had eclusive rights,  or what that agreement was w/ HTC, but if ien did not finish paying for the rights to this  then all agreements should be nul and void.

On a personal note , In my personal dealings with HTC (2 1/2 years) I have had nothing but the upmost greatest support from them .
(when my house burnt down and I didnt play in the main i had to unsub ... my wife called them up and explained  , they not only unsubbed me they also refunded my monies from the time i stopped entering the game.  2 months worth )
I would gladly invest into a fund for them ...



Someone mentioned that HT still holds the rights to the patent and it was not part of the deal when iEN bought out ICI, which kept the patent in HT's hands.  In turn, iEN bought the license to use the patent for which they only made one initial payment.

WildBill's suit against the USAAF sounds like he's banking on the fact that they USAAF might feel that it will be more costly to defend themselves against this crook than it would be to pay him off.  What is even more stupid is his reported attempts to extort 5% of the profits from all online games because he says they violate "his" patent.


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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2003, 04:46:59 PM »
thats sort of the idea I've got .... but it would be better to see the handwriting on the wall so to speak.
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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2003, 05:18:01 PM »
The lawsuit filed by iEN is totally ridiculous.  It's apparent even to the most dim witted idiot that IEN is failing financialy.  It should be ( and I say SHOULD BE) obivious that this is a last ditch attempt by a failing company to obtain capital while inflicting damage on it's major competitor.

I joined warbirds for a short time....and like all human beings I had an opinion.  My opinion was that I really didn't like it that much......opinions differ however, and are just that.... opinions.  To each his own.  I don't fault anyone for liking Warbirds over Aces High.......hell.....it's their money and choice.  I made mine......they've made theirs'.

While subscribing to IEN.....when I did go online, there weren't very many online.....usually US primetime......evenings.  It was obivious to me that the majority of the flightsim community appeared to like Aces High better......hell......there were always 150 to 300 online in the early evening eastern time.  Now there are almost 400 online at that time....and often more.

Again.....this could be one of the most frivolous lawsuits that any of us have ever seen.  If it is obivious to me that due to the  financial woes of IEN, IEN is making a last ditch attempt to salvage what is left ....maybe...just maybe, a learned Judge would see things the same way. Hey!  But who knows?  This is America after all, where frivolous lawsuits are fast replacing baseball as the national past time!
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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2003, 05:47:21 PM »
I can pay more fror subscription to supply "war"
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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2003, 05:54:23 PM »
wild bill bout to get roped.
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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2003, 06:15:19 PM »
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as the plot thickens... I notice from this link http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061915/000115752302001447/a4290695.txt
 that iEN is also sueing the air force  and I Quote from this form
"On September 24, 2002 the Company filed an administrative claim for patent
infringement before the Air Force pursuant to Title 10 United States Code,
Section 2386 in compliance with 48 CFR Subpart 227.70, Infringement Claims,
Licenses, and Assignments. The Company is the holder of United States Patent no.
6,042,477 - a method of and system for minimizing the effects of time
latency...on interconnected computers. The Company uses its technology to manage
the effects of time latency across the internet for its massively multi-player
flight simulators.


This information comes from my brother who researched this at my behest.
Here is what I posted and asked to be cross-posted to AGWB as my account did not have posting rights:



My brother researched this information (his specialty is Intellectual
Property - patents and copyrights).

He adds that this link doe not prove or disprove owners of these patents,
just that these links are quite interesting in light of this new lawsuit
served to HiTech on 17 July 2003.

1)  IENT is suing the United States Air Force for infringement on the same
patent Dale Addink is being sued for.

2) IENT lost the trademark for the name, "Warbirds".

Link below has both:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1061915/000115752302001447/a4290695.txt

Jeff



What this means is Dale Addink could be the owner of the patent.  The only name listed is Dale Addink's.

Jeff
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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2003, 06:42:21 PM »
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wild bill bout to get roped.


Hehehe.Hopefully a herd or Niks and La7's will fly up his bellybutton in protest of being a poor excuse for a human being.Sounds like this guy is grasping at straws.  Were behind ya HT.Just say the word and a veritable Plethora of,oh excuse me.For you Nik jocks thats a shatload BTW,We will Spew mail into that system threating boycott.Should wake a few people up.:eek:
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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2003, 09:41:17 PM »
Link to Trademark and Patent Office refusal for Warbirds III trademark request.

This is only a summary but it is the final response on a dead issue now. In my knowledge of the situation IENT can not request that this trademark be used again. They do not hold another trademark for their games since they are all showing final refusal except for the original one which is an abandoned trademark back in 1997. It was abandoned because they failed to respond to office action (meaning a letter they were sent after applying for it).

ICI trademark application
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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2003, 10:13:29 PM »
I'm no master accountant, but that company is on the quick road out of business.  The net income is plumeting while expenses are rising, and functional debt is well beyond typical recovery.

I knew WB had been doing poorly...I just had no idea it was THAT bad.....we're going to have an influx of 50 or so new subscribers soon....

sad to see this happen, but its kinda indicative of me being here.:(
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2003, 03:41:09 AM »
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WildBill's suit against the USAAF sounds like he's banking on the fact that they USAAF might feel that it will be more costly to defend themselves against this crook than it would be to pay him off.  What is even more stupid is his reported attempts to extort 5% of the profits from all online games because he says they violate "his" patent.


ack-ack

Ack-Ack, we haven't been the USAAF since 1947.  Only one A, my friend...
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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2003, 04:35:45 AM »
LMAO! Just as I was reading this thread, WinAMP started playing Amazing Grace on bagpipes!


After reading all the threads on this subject, I gotta agree that iEN and MildJill are destined for the scrap-yard. They can't sue just the USAF and Dale for using latency-reducing code, cause they'd have to sue everybody who writes/produces/owns a net-based game. That'd be claiming to own the whole latency-reducing idea, and would make a monopoly, which is illegal. Also, Dale OWNS the patent (as of 2k, the document date), so they can't sue on the grounds he's using/selling/charging for it. All this amounts to a temper tantrum by iEN because MildJill can't manage a company; something half the planet has known for years.

-hazed, I'm with you. I'd sign a petition towards HTC's credibility, customer service quality, the works. They don't spew any BS, they're all active on the board when time permits, and every one of 'em will answer a question both on the boards and the phone. As for counter-suing iEN/MildJill to pay for damages....eh, I wouldn't. That'd be like winning five years of free telemarketing calls. All you could really counter-sue for is worthless stock or court costs; the latter being the best route. Though the judge would probably want payment in cash based on iEN's inability to pay bills. Hell, I'll bet $5 the reason HTC sent the licensing check back is cause it would've bounced.



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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2003, 10:21:24 AM »
I dont want to be a prophet, but this is
a typical bubble case.
The man is a born looser and he know it,
so i afraid he have deside to escape with
as many money as he can from his victims
after ofcourse the announcemend of
bankruptcy.
After, you can find him at Hawai drinking
coctails in the name of the suckers.
Its sad, how much easy some people
 can become victims.
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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2003, 11:43:28 AM »
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Wild Bill looks like a drowning man reaching for that life-preserver just out of reach.



Ack-Ack



 I'd be happy to toss the f@cker an anchor.
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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2003, 11:45:07 AM »
I have one ??? here .... How can someone sue the U.S. DOD (the usaf) in this case for a patent infringement ???
I have alway been under the impression that the DOD can use anything they want . (if they pay the maker of the patent then its a courticy type payment ect.).  
I'm not shure if im correct in this so i has hoping one of you brainiacs could clear this up for me .  Thx
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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2003, 12:03:45 PM »
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