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Offline Rollio

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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2003, 06:27:01 AM »
These are what I want more than any other planes.  Eventually I'd like to see all these models, preference given to the ones at the top of the list though.

P47M (this might need to be lightly perked, but I think a high perk cost is unnecessary, plenty of stuff we already have outclimbs it, and outturns it)

P47N (this shouldn't need to be perked)

P47D-23 (last razorback Jug)

P47C (early combat model)

And if the 'rules' get broken

XP47J

XP72    <- this thing would be a an absolute monster, shame it never got used.
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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2003, 09:28:35 AM »
P47N was used in combat a hell of a lot more than most planes in AH that are unperked.


THe La7 is a joke. Un perked and for some reason , even though every book on earth that mentions it and says that above 10k performance drops off, our LA7 suffers no setbacks.

Dont beleive me?> go take a p47D30 and an LA7 up to 28k.

see which one outperforms the other. The D30 should be all over it like a bad suit at that altitude.


I say give frenchy his P47N unperked or the M perked at same cost as say a tempest.

LOWER the cost of tempests and SPIT14 to @ 20

PERK THE DAMN LA7 for @20 too

PERK THE LATE WAR PLANESET FOR REAL LOW COST @3 to 5 perks ....... P51D , 190D-9, 109G10 , P47 D30 , P38J (add an unperked P38E/F first)

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2003, 10:50:07 AM »
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FWs have their TA152



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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2003, 11:00:30 AM »
Don't perk anything unless there is a severe arena unbalancing.  Good sticks can find the fights they want, and bad sticks won't know the difference.  

Underlying all perk talk is a rolling plane set.  CT has that and the new AH2 will have one.
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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2003, 12:29:47 PM »
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Originally posted by hazed-
P47N was used in combat a hell of a lot more than most planes in AH that are unperked.


THe La7 is a joke. Un perked and for some reason , even though every book on earth that mentions it and says that above 10k performance drops off, our LA7 suffers no setbacks.

Dont beleive me?> go take a p47D30 and an LA7 up to 28k.

see which one outperforms the other. The D30 should be all over it like a bad suit at that altitude.


I say give frenchy his P47N unperked or the M perked at same cost as say a tempest.

LOWER the cost of tempests and SPIT14 to @ 20

PERK THE DAMN LA7 for @20 too

PERK THE LATE WAR PLANESET FOR REAL LOW COST @3 to 5 perks ....... P51D , 190D-9, 109G10 , P47 D30 , P38J (add an unperked P38E/F first)


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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2003, 12:41:04 PM »
from a design perspective it may be less work for HTC to make the M tho, the exterior is very close to the D30 as far as i can see. The N would need abit more work i think. but wth, i have no idea how they make em anyway so i may be way off.

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2003, 07:42:21 PM »
Unbalancing is dependent upon people's perception.  And for the longest time it seems every week someone is posting a thread to perk the LA7 due to its performance.  Based on that, it really is unbalancing a lot of people.  I for one think the thing should be perked.

I like the idea of a 1943 based arena.

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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2003, 03:28:50 AM »
I agree w/ AKAK.  The La7 is fast, but after it's speed and acceleration, it is a very average, and easliy beatable plane.  In fact, in a 1v1, the speed advantage the la7 has is a liability for 90% of LA7 pilots.  These guys will overshoot and expose themselves to easy deaths.  Sure there are a couple exceptional LA7 pilots, but that can be said for any model.  I've been here for just under a year, so I'm no "veteran" of AH... each month I learn a bunch more...this month my ratio against La7's is:  41-2.
If a relative youngster to the game can manage this.. anyone can..... IMO   the La7 has no business being perked....unless you perk all late war planes, I guess.




Edit:  Back on topic... I love the idea of a perked p-47... why not?

Since everyone should have a perked varient of their ride of preference.. can I have a perked pony?  the -H?
(please don't slam me too much, I'm just wishing.)
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2003, 12:08:30 PM »
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the N preformance isn't THAT great - about a p-51's. unless you want to fly it at 30k


Frankly, I enjoy high altitude fights! The more, the better.

F4U-4 vs P47N at 28-30k? Scary, but fun. I'd engage! :)

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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2003, 12:19:16 PM »
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from a design perspective it may be less work for HTC to make the M tho, the exterior is very close to the D30 as far as i can see.


And by "very close," you mean "identical."  Throw a skin on it and tweak the FM for higher engine output and you have a P-47M.

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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2003, 12:23:13 PM »
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I say give frenchy his P47N unperked or the M perked at same cost as say a tempest.


I'll agree with you as far as you say we should have both planes.  As far as perking goes, I don't care either way (the pessimist in me knows a "P-47M" perk icon would kill most of the fun of even having this plane ;) ), but the P-47M and N would be very similar in performance so it wouldn't make too much sense to perk one and not the other.  In fact, I'd say the P-47N with dry wing tanks would be the plane to fly for best overall performance.

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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2003, 03:06:42 PM »
Yes bring the P47M or N or both, just get the KI-84/KI-100 in here at the same time or b4 :)

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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2003, 03:13:42 PM »
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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2003, 07:10:49 AM »
LA7 outclasses most planes perked and unperked bellow 10k, only reason they are failry easy to kill is that there are few really good pilots that fly it. Perk it or unperk the Ta152 (unperk the Ta152 anyway) the F4u4 and Spit 14 then bring down tempest perk to 10.
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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2003, 07:11:21 AM »
OH! And BTW, bring the P47M to AH!
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