does the spit14 honestly need to be perked?

[TheManx]

Unperk it or take the tag off. Was flying one earlier tonight and had a respected player in the community throw a mossie in a spin to avoid getting shot, then doing a suicide dive into the pond just to get the kill when I broke for his wingman. Wish I'd filmed it, because instead of getting killed by a Spit XIV, instead he gets dropped by a chute. I don't mind the numbers of people attaching to it in a dogfight, it's just the stupid lengths people will go to to cash in on the perk ride. I'm not po'd about the loss of perks, as I have far more than I'd ever use at any time. It's just the enjoyment of flying them goes away when normally good opponents start becoming idiots.

[Karnak]

The Mk XI was an unarmed photo recon version.

[Flyboy]

take the "14" tag off, perk it like a 262 just take the damn tag OFF

why is the spit14 perked? cause he kicks bellybutton
it turns allmost as a spit9 and its fast! climb is good too

about the spit14\109g10

im sorry doctorYO but the 109g10 is faster then the spit14 AND will out climb it at ALL altitudes with OR withOUT wep

thats a fact ive tested it several times

109g10 vrs spit14 is a real good metchup   really comes down to pilot skil allthough i think the 109 has an edge

[gofaster]

Originally posted by Furball
Gofaster, im suprised you aren't whining about niki's......

Nah, I save that for Ch1 in the MA.

One thing I've learned recently is that I don't need to worry about N1k2s when I'm in the Ki-61 and P-40E.  For some reason, I can kill N1K2s on a regular basis with those planes.  Its the Spitfires that give me troubles in the turns.

[bozon]

tested the 14 offline - it has some peculiar handling issues:

any turnfight in this plane must be done with power off or half power if not pulling into the stall - else, the planes snaprolls and if at slow speeds, kicks the tail around and falls sideways.
actually, i think this is OK and it's undermodeled in other planes.

when going vertical and letting the speed drop below 80mph, then pulling the stick in order to flip over, the plane tends to get stuck flat on it's back and enter a flat spin (especially if the power is off during the flip over). this spin is VERY had to pull out of.
again, it seems to me that this is how it should be and not modeled right in other planes.

anyway, this plane handles differently from all other AH planes (to the worse) and is actually hard to fly. It will not attract a large crowd due to it being too slow to runaway from p-51,la7,109G10,190D9 and doesn't have the turning ability to compensate.

* make it the chog of the spits! - perk it low and loose the icon.
* it's just a 1944 plane, built in masses and no uber in any way (although it IS good).
* why in any other plane in AH i can zoom up till speeds goes to zero and not enter a spin? that isn't right.

Bozon

[Kweassa]

Some planes are just easier to get out of the inverted flat spin, others aren't. It's an issue that mostly has to do with combat trim, and for a steady reversal at very low speeds, during the vertical, combat trim should be turned off prior to going vertical.

 The Corsair, P-51, Ta152, Fw190, 109s etc.. many planes have this issues. Usually, if one doesn't manually trim those planes, and go vertical and try to reverse under 100mph speeds, they'll fall into that inverted flat spin.

 But of course, some planes, like the Spit9, N1K2-J or the La-5FN, La-7, rarely encounters this same problem. I think I actually did an inverted flat spin in a Spit9 way back, but I pulled out of it in about two seconds - "whoa, I'm falling on my back.. Ok.. calm down.. use rudders.. attempt to nose down first.. oh.. I'm recovered already.."

 ...

 Anyway, I agree with Bozon. If the Spit14 needs those 60 perks, then the G-10 needs 50 perks, and the La-7 needs 70 perks.

 If the G-10 and the La-7 is free, then by golly the Spit14 needs to be free, or if it really has overuse issues, lightly perked around 5~8 points.