Author Topic: Tank Killers (Read 1077 times)

cobia38 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 23, 2003, 10:11:32 PM »

survivability of il2 seems not to good though,you dont see alot
of big il2 landed kills. Its no big deel to up in a 38 and kill more then 8 gvs and land em. I was poke,n around in my tour 40 stats
and here is my p38 vs gv results
8 -1 tiger
189-9 panzer
54-4 m3
30-7m8
56-36 osty
50-9 m16
thats 387 kills to 66 deaths in p38

Widewing · « **Reply #31 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:26:45 PM »

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Originally posted by SLO
Wimps....

best is Hurri 2C......

even spit 9 does pretty good....2 250's and 1 500...plus a pretty good punch with that ammo(20mm and .50cal)

but me i prefer hurri 2c.....

and never forget...its not WHAT you attack with....but HOW you attack vehicles.....

Yes sir, the Hurri IIC is outstanding against softer GVs. I bumped off 7 LVTs the other day, and still landed with 40 rounds remaining. Those four Hispanos can easily kill an M16 or M3 1.6k out, with little risk, largely because the GV driver didn't expect you to even fire at that range, much less trash his vehicle. Same goes for PTs.

My regards,

Widewing

Mini D · « **Reply #32 on:** July 23, 2003, 11:46:30 PM »

I like the typhoon best. With 2 1k bombs it will still climb decently at 300 IAS. Come in at a steep angle on panzers and they are always toast. The really nice thing is that against the AA vehicles, you don't have to get particularly close (less than 700 yards). Those hispanos can reach out and touch the turret of anything from the right angle. I was killing 6-7 GVs a sortie with one just the other day... and that's without much practice in it.

MiniD

Rutilant · « **Reply #33 on:** July 24, 2003, 12:53:00 AM »

Landed an 8 kill IL2 sortie.. Very fun, mostly from just disabling panzers with cannon and moving on.. then used those uber 7.9mms to kill M3s and M8s. Then i bingoed for fuel.

Rutilant · « **Reply #34 on:** July 24, 2003, 12:58:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Zanth
*SNIP*
The 110G2 is also very good with the 30mm option. It's not as armored as the IL2, but the bad guys have a lot harder time hitting a 110.

*SNIP*

The 110 is actually a bigger target from the front, not counting the tail surface. Plus it's extremely frail to .50s, in my experience.

OverBkil · « **Reply #35 on:** July 24, 2003, 05:54:41 AM »

Best tank killer? There's only 1 real tank killer in game, IL-2!

I use the same method as Furball, but attacks from above to panzer's 12 o clock work very well too: aim front of vehicle where the driver is, short burst starting from 400 yards and BOOM!!! Idea is to hit small area between turret and front armour, that gives u fast kill.

My tour 42 (not finished yet) IL-2 stats:

Tiger 3 - 1
Panzer 100 - 0
M3 27 - 0
M8 28 - 0
M16 36 - 2
Ostwind 26 - 8

Oh, and thank you for your nice words Rod & Furball

hazed- · « **Reply #36 on:** July 24, 2003, 05:55:20 AM »

lol just use 50 cals they are still tank killers even though its been shown they werent much good at the job in RL. Theold 'i skipped the 50 cals off the floor and they bounced or skipped under the tank for the kill' is probably actually true but it was in no way to PENETRATE the armour.

The problem with German tanks was they tended to LEAK fuel a lot. Mostly on the underside of the tank.Also as the war came to a close the quality of German Armour became degraded due to a lack of additives used to make stronger steels and less brittle armour.

Apparently some tanks had really poor, quite brittle armour in the last years and the best place was the underside where the armour was sometimes left really thin to save on materials.

What i suspect most of those pilots did was fire incindaries under the tank and this could cattch the tank on fire. Or if the crew were stupid enough to leave under floor escape hatches open for ventilation the bullets maybe made their way into the tank.
Once a fire starts a crew would abandon a tank.They wouldnt try to put out the fire whilst planes are rocketing them so this could disable a tank easily.
Most of the abandoned tanks that were not totally destroyed were later recovered and rebuilt by special teams of engineers. both sides had them.The problem in AH is we have tanks which are much too weak against small caliber fire and seemingly pretty good vrs larger calibres which in reality were found better for the job.

We should have the 37mm on the yak or the 40mm on the hurri or the 27mm? on IL2 be affective against armour as we could assume these gun would be loaded as AP rounds for this very job.

50 cals were loaded with HE AP and incindaries and and so should reflect as a less suited weapon for armour busting, its not though in AH however, with their exceedingly high range:

50 calls can hit a target at 1.3k
30mm can hit a target at 800 yards but not further
13mm can hit @1100 yards but not further

its a longer distance you can fire from.
so the guns are easier to aim and hardly any recoil or movement of nose as you fire unlike the large calibers, even though the ammo was not as hard hitting in RL in AH it seems to accumilate its hits rather than treat each shot but im not sure about this,( seems to be) and you have FAR more ammo in your 50's.

why bother with the risk of a heavy IL2 or Yak T when you can take a spit and pop tanks like a needle popping balloons.

GV DM needs the most work in AH i think. I even shot a shell right through a panzer at 50 yards! went between the turret and the main body but exploded some yards behind it! theres holes in their model!

Dowding · « **Reply #37 on:** July 24, 2003, 05:58:13 AM »

Typhoon with the 2x1000lb bombs, without a doubt.

Rutilant · « **Reply #38 on:** July 24, 2003, 06:29:47 AM »

P51, Spitfire, Typhoon if you wanna get rid of the pesky GVs and go to furball straight after, but the IL2 definitely has the best mix of ord and cannons for killing and disabling Gvs.

Gremlin · « **Reply #39 on:** July 24, 2003, 07:17:20 AM »

I'm amazed the tiffie aint used more for gv bustin, for me its the only choice. I can take out 2xgvs in 1 pass if they are only a couple of hundred yards apart, by dropping on bomb on each (line up and delay the pickle a fraction of a sec). My usual method is a 45degree dive to the target. Aim point is the very lowest point on the gunsight, release 2k above tgt and its ded everytime, against flaks i usually do a 90degree dive, aim point dead center, corkscrewing down slightly so the beggers have no chance to hit ya with those 37mm! I love it when gvs flock together, 1 well placed drop right in the middle causes no end of upset for em:)