Author Topic: Deja Vu in Texas (Read 766 times)

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2003, 08:27:16 PM »

question how many time have democrats redistricted on a non cencus year? i.e. gerymandering, in texas. the answer is none how come you accuse them of it? they are no angels but the knee jerk "they do it to" dosen't work here.

its a republican thing at least in texas. you know, like reconstruction.

Krusher · « **Reply #16 on:** July 30, 2003, 07:57:42 AM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
question how many time have democrats redistricted on a non cencus year? i.e. gerymandering, in texas. the answer is none how come you accuse them of it? they are no angels but the knee jerk "they do it to" dosen't work here.

its a republican thing at least in texas. you know, like reconstruction.

The law in Texas has never ever said that redistricting must be done on a census year. Redistricting on census years didnt start in Texas untill after the 1964 ( i think it was 64 it might have been 67) Federal law making it illegal to pair districts (concentrate based on unequal numbers).

The party in power has always had the right to redistricing. For the first time in 130+ years it is the Republicans turn to redistrict. What the Texas democrats are trying to do is call foul over the census issue and hopefully run out the clock before the next election. They are betting that by election time they may be able to retake the state and avoid the issue all together.

It is not a Rep vs Dem thing it is the way it has always been and will always be unless the law is changed (and it wont be LOL) Both parties play this game. When the Democrats controlled Texas, they shaped the districts to their advantage. Now the Republicans are trying to do so.

BTW if your from Texas you have heard of the "dirty 30" it was a group of Democrats and Republicans who banded together to fight Speaker Gus Mutscher (D) over redistricting. They left town to avoid the issue and eventually lost out. Old Gus re-drew the districts to make sure the democrats who opposed him were put into districts together so they had to run against each other.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #17 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:01:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusher
The law in Texas has never ever said that redistricting must be done on a census year. Redistricting on census years didnt start in Texas untill after the 1964 ( i think it was 64 it might have been 67) Federal law making it illegal to pair districts (concentrate based on unequal numbers).

The party in power has always had the right to redistricing. For the first time in 130+ years it is the Republicans turn to redistrict. What the Texas democrats are trying to do is call foul over the census issue and hopefully run out the clock before the next election. They are betting that by election time they may be able to retake the state and avoid the issue all together.

It is not a Rep vs Dem thing it is the way it has always been and will always be unless the law is changed (and it wont be LOL) Both parties play this game. When the Democrats controlled Texas, they shaped the districts to their advantage. Now the Republicans are trying to do so.

BTW if your from Texas you have heard of the "dirty 30" it was a group of Democrats and Republicans who banded together to fight Speaker Gus Mutscher (D) over redistricting. They left town to avoid the issue and eventually lost out. Old Gus re-drew the districts to make sure the democrats who opposed him were put into districts together so they had to run against each other.

Don't confuse him with facts Krusher! You might overload him!

AKIron · « **Reply #18 on:** July 30, 2003, 08:46:21 AM »

no honor among thieves

lord dolf vader · « **Reply #19 on:** July 30, 2003, 10:58:13 AM »

so its not illeagle and you can get away with it do it? costing the state a bundle when we are dead broke shure great idea.

the state is broke through republican missmanagment, remember they have a majority they are gerymandering in a desperate bid to hold power at any cost.

gerymandering bad mmmmm kkkkkaaaaa.
does it have to be illeagle to be bad for you vampires?

this one has turned against the lyin bastards the citizens have been alerted to the cowardly acts of the republican party and there will be no redistricting

there was a reason we ran you out in the first place your *******s and losers at that.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #20 on:** July 30, 2003, 11:37:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusher
The law in Texas has never ever said that redistricting must be done on a census year. Redistricting on census years didnt start in Texas untill after the 1964 ( i think it was 64 it might have been 67) Federal law making it illegal to pair districts (concentrate based on unequal numbers).

The party in power has always had the right to redistricing. For the first time in 130+ years it is the Republicans turn to redistrict. What the Texas democrats are trying to do is call foul over the census issue and hopefully run out the clock before the next election. They are betting that by election time they may be able to retake the state and avoid the issue all together.

It is not a Rep vs Dem thing it is the way it has always been and will always be unless the law is changed (and it wont be LOL) Both parties play this game. When the Democrats controlled Texas, they shaped the districts to their advantage. Now the Republicans are trying to do so.

BTW if your from Texas you have heard of the "dirty 30" it was a group of Democrats and Republicans who banded together to fight Speaker Gus Mutscher (D) over redistricting. They left town to avoid the issue and eventually lost out. Old Gus re-drew the districts to make sure the democrats who opposed him were put into districts together so they had to run against each other.

Dolf. At this point I think you best tactic would be to leave this thread for another thread in order to avoid the issue altogether.

Krusher · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2003, 12:40:28 PM »

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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
so its not illeagle and you can get away with it do it? costing the state a bundle when we are dead broke shure great idea.

the state is broke through republican missmanagment, remember they have a majority they are gerymandering in a desperate bid to hold power at any cost.

gerymandering bad mmmmm kkkkkaaaaa.
does it have to be illeagle to be bad for you vampires?

this one has turned against the lyin bastards the citizens have been alerted to the cowardly acts of the republican party and there will be no redistricting there was a reason we ran you out in the first place your *******s and losers at that.

Less than 2 million for a special session. BTW it was called to pass other bills besides redistricting because of all the bills that had to be put on hold from the last walkout. So technically its the Dems costing us money.

The House was controlled by the Democrats and the Senate by the Republicans (by one vote) up until last November. So saying that this (fiscal) mess was a Republican problem is not really accurate. To be fair its really neither party's fault that the economy slowed and revenue dropped. Hey we should be happy they passed a balanced budget considering we were what, 4.5 billion in the hole prior. A drop in the bucket compared to CA.

As far as holding onto power at any cost.. Pot-Kettle?