Author Topic: Boring and unstrategic maps (Read 3338 times)

Toad · « **Reply #60 on:** August 10, 2003, 10:27:23 AM »

Well, better a whiner than a mere b tcher.

lazs2 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 10, 2003, 10:42:43 AM »

deja... yu act like I bring up stats all the time. or at least dozens of times... probly have don it with 4 or 5 guys who are still rankled because the stats that are public domain proved that they were either being untruthful or simply didn't have any idea of what they were talking about.

Now... you claim that you can find a fight in 5 minutes. I have no doubt of that... anyone can... simply take off from a field that is being vultched or steamrollered. The problemn is you speak of "fights" and furballs interchangeably. I know that you can't find a furball anytime you like unless.... you don't like finding furballs very often.

When someone tells me that they are finding noting but constant action in AH and that I am full of it or just unable to read a map if I can't and then... we see that they have a 1/1 KD and a 2 kills per hour stats... My pointing it out is the most relevant thing of the whole exchange.
lazs

Mini D · « **Reply #62 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:03:56 AM »

1. I say: I have no problem finding furballs.
2. You look up my stats and say: You're stats don't suggest it so shut up.

Pretty much a standard formula with you lazs. I'm sorry you can't remember doing it more often, but it seems there's plenty of stuff you can't remember... especially when it comes to your experiences in the arenas.

Its getting very old lazs, and you are arguing from such a stupid stance that it really is impossible to argue against. The game does not make people not want to fight. The game does not dictate what alt people want to fly at. The game does not dictate whether people fly in a manner that you like them to. The pilots dictate that themselves.

I'm sorry that you cannot find the exact kind of fight you are looking for more often lazs. I'm sorry that most people want more than the fundamental repetitive thrill you insist you crave. I'm also sorry that you feel a game should simply stop growing and developing just because you liked it better 3 years ago.

Maybe its time to move on lazs? Of course, the game outgrowing you would be a tad bit lamer of an excuse than you outgrowing the game.

Or... maybe you could realize that THE GAME HASN'T REALLY CHANGED THAT MUCH. THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THE EXACT SAME THING FOR 3 YEARS INSISTING THAT ITS ALL THEY WANT TO DO ARE JUST FAILING TO REALIZE THAT BOREDOME AND A "FOND REMEMBERANCE" ARE A DANGEROUS COMBINATION.

There are more fights now in the MA than there have ever been. The fact that you can't find them speaks directly at you lazs. There are good fights and bad fights, its a result of never knowing exactly who is flying a plane and what their idea of fun is lazs.

Maybe you should buy a boxed off-line sim lazs with excellent AI. You can spend a year figuring out exactly how they behave so that you can automatically kill them on the ace setting in a 10:1 situation. You'll have plenty of the types of fights you are looking for, and you'll have an endless supply of instant fights. Or... you could realize that in a real world with real people things just don't work like that... ever.

MiniD

lazs2 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:16:17 AM »

well... at least someone besides my ex wives knows exactly what I am thinking and my motives are it seems.

So.. deja... whose memory is faulty. How many peoples stats have I brought up?

Also.. I enjoy the game. It is not I that takes 'breaks" or crys for more "meaningful" gameplay. I don't ask for more of anything. I ask for opportunity. Taking my suggestions would add choice not take it away. The strat guys are the ones who want to direct gameplay not I.... put the fields closer together and people will fight more. they don't have to but they will because.... because it is fun. the only way you can stop people from having fun is to design the map so that they can't.... AK desert (aka "pizza") is a shining example.... long flights to nowhere map.

and geeze... lighten up.. you must be one of them mean and resentful fat guys instead of one of those jolly ones.... just my luck. wouldn't have it any other way tho.
lazs

Mini D · « **Reply #64 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:19:19 AM »

4000 posts isn't enough to give someone some insite into you lazs? Come now. Despite what you think of yourself lazs... complexity is not one of your strong suits.

And did you just ask me to lighten up? Really lazs? Did you just start... what... the 1000th thread on this subject saying the same stupid things over and over, calling most of the MA some kind of pithy name and then just tell me to lighten up?

Lazs... gonna ask you to do this again... read what you've been writing lately. Just step back and take a look.

MiniD

lazs2 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:38:37 AM »

deja... guy... you have posted over 2,600 times.. mostly pissy and self rightious too I might add... guy...step back and look at your posts.. say, isn't "posts" a stat? Are you bringing up my "stats" deja?
lazs

Mini D · « **Reply #66 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:53:49 AM »

Did you just say "I know you are but what am I?"

Holy crap lazs.

muckmaw · « **Reply #67 on:** August 10, 2003, 03:44:57 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

So.. deja... whose memory is faulty. How many peoples stats have I brought up?

Hmmm...

Without looking up 2365 threads...

Mine
BGBMAW
Beetle
IceMAW
Kweassa

That's 5 right there...off the top of my head. (Note, Rude broght in mine and Kweassas the other day, but you share the same brain so it counts. {Edited to protect the innocent})

Oh hell, pretty much anyone who's gotten into a heated debate with you gets their stats pulled and commented on. Not that I give a rats arnold, but don't lie about it. Everyone knows this is a Lazs signature move.

Oh, Good news..I got my K/T up to 4.32 in a great furball with the BKS the other night..Nopoop, Apache, Levi...Musta lasted almost 1 1/2 hours before I had to log. Does this mean I can comment on what I think are good and bad fights, or am I still unqualifed, Jefe?

Toad · « **Reply #68 on:** August 10, 2003, 03:52:19 PM »

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Originally posted by muckmaw
Note, Toad broght in mine and Kweassas the other day, but you share the same brain so it counts.)

Shame. And in a post on the accuracy of a post too!

Sorry, chum.

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

I'll trouble you for an apology, please. Let's keep the dancers in this minuet straight, ok?

muckmaw · « **Reply #69 on:** August 10, 2003, 08:23:57 PM »

You are absolutely correct Toad, It was Rude. My apologies.Any chance we can get you guys different Avatars? Not only do you all sound alike, now your starting to look alike.

Seriously, I apologize for the error.

Toad · « **Reply #70 on:** August 10, 2003, 08:52:25 PM »

I accept. You are herewith forgiven.

No, we keep the same avatar. Long time ago somebody made a big deal of our guys posting similar opinions and the accuser said something like "they all support each other but hide the fact they're all in the same squad."

At that point we put 13th in the sig block and when avatars came out, we standardized that.

Just so no one is confused. Although we often disagree. Particularly that loco, Stringer.

Steve · « **Reply #71 on:** August 10, 2003, 09:01:29 PM »

Heh, I think it's a great avatar!
I'm not worthy.

sax · « **Reply #72 on:** August 10, 2003, 11:32:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
The great irony of the thing is... one of them is 13TAS. LOL!
MiniD

I'm missing something here Mini. Wheres the irony and whats it got to do with the 13th ?

Mini D · « **Reply #73 on:** August 11, 2003, 07:53:29 AM »

Sorry... Been playing the game since beta. I guess I could go back and dig up the ol "fighting vs running" threads of old... and alt monkey threads. Just funny to watch such serious convictions about how the game should be changed so drastically. I mean... watch so many insist the game changed... not them.

MiniD

lazs2 · « **Reply #74 on:** August 11, 2003, 08:21:45 AM »

deja said... "Did you just say "I know you are but what am I?"

Holy crap lazs."

No... I was saying that you are being hypocritical in the extreme.

muck... I have brought up stats about 5 or 6 times but only recently.. never before about 6 months ago or so (hardly a "signature move").. and... allways when the poster told me something like "I NEVER have trouble finding a fight anytime I like" or.... "you are a furballer who doesn't care about survival like us high class strat guys, you just fly till you die" If you don't get more than a couple of kills an hour then you don't know if you can find a furball all the time or not.... you lack the experiance to say. If you die three times more than me then you probly shouldn't comment on me flying like a "quaker" or some other silly crap. muck... I believe that if you maintaind between 4.5 and 12 kills per hour for 3 tours in a row you would probly know what I am talking about. we might not agree still but we couls at least be on the same page.

the 13th... deja... to your delight... I was probly the hardest on them of anyone. losing voss really helped that squad. A while back they switched to spit and FM2 for a few tours and started to mix it up... they did it with enthusiasm and without whining. They earned the respect of the furballers. some have said on this board that they have changed their idea of good gameplay.

oh and muck... on those stats things... some of those were brought up by you and corrected by me... beetle brought up his own and I corrected em. corrected? well... you guys brought up one little slice and I brought up an average of three tours. For instance... beetle will say he is 30/1 (or some such) in the Chog... but you will see that he has a 2/1 K/D overall.

so.... to summarize.... deja... hypocrite.... muck... wrong... tas... good.
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