You might try this Shade, when ya log on, look and see if there is an enemy base that has a constant flow of enemy planes spawning out of it. If ya see one, grab you a p51, 190, p47, or my favorite, the 109g10. (boom and zoom is the idea)
Take off, and grab you about 20,000 ft of altitude. Approach the enemy base form behind, when in view of the field, go into a steady dive so ya get about 450+ mph of energy going for you. The idea is to catch the guys on climbout. When you see a con in the distance, nose down some as to be approaching his low six o'clock. Catching guys asleep on climbout is one of the joyful ways of killing guys in the game.

Especially if ya see the plane rolling left and right slightly to see behind 'em, and they don't see ya.
A truly great bounce takes a minimal amount of ammo at very close range, as to pilot kill the guy before he has clue #1 that you're even there.
If you would like to ride with me, or wing up, my email addy is in my signature...
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hblair@cybrtyme.com [This message has been edited by hblair (edited 09-19-2000).]