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« on: August 07, 2003, 04:36:06 PM »
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BRUSSELS — U.S. software giant Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) faces a European Commission (search) fine over charges it abused the dominance of its Windows operating system and may be ordered to share vital software with competitors.

  The European Union's executive body said on Wednesday it would give Microsoft one final chance to comment before taking action, adding it was confident its case could weather rigorous legal scrutiny.

"The Commission's preliminary conclusion is that Microsoft's abuses are still ongoing," it said in a statement.

The Commission gave no clear indication of her the amount, it is unlikely to make much of a dent in Microsoft's $49 billion in cash holdings.

It also intends to order the firm to share crucial interface protocols for computer servers with competitors and change the way it distributes its Windows Media Player (search) software, which lets personal computers play music and video.

A final decision, which may still be months away and would set a timetable for new mandatory business practices, can be appealed to European Union courts. But an appeal would not freeze the effect of the Commission's decision.

The Commission said Microsoft designs its low-end server software, which manages everything from Web sites to email systems, to work better with Windows than with rival operating systems from Sun Microsystems Inc. (SUNW), Oracle Corp. (ORCL) and other competitors.

Sharing Windows' interface protocols could make it easier for software developers using rival systems, including the Linux operating system that is freely available and increasingly popular in servers, to create products that work with Windows.

An EU source said Microsoft now has 70 percent of the market for server operating systems.

The Commission would also force Microsoft either to halt its bundling of Windows Media Player with the ubiquitous Windows operating systems, or to include rival software programmes among its offerings.

Critics say the bundling practice puts competing products from Real Networks and Apple Computer at a serious disadvantage.

On the U.S. Nasdaq market, Microsoft shares were up 1.6 percent at $26.08, outperforming the Nasdaq Composite index's 0.3 percent dip.

Tiffany Steckler, a Microsoft spokeswoman in Paris, said the company had dealt with some of the Commission's concerns in remedies agreed to in its U.S. antitrust case. Critics say those remedies have been ineffective.

She added the company was examining the Commission's preliminary findings but considered them unfortunate because they would lengthen the EU's antitrust investigation. Despite those concerns, analysts viewed Wednesday's EU announcement as the first clear signal an end was in sight for the four-year probe.

"This is a precursor to a settlement. I think we'll see a settlement at the end of the year. And I think Microsoft will, in the end, make minor concessions," said David Smith, an analyst with technology consultancy Gartner.

He suspected Microsoft would not give in to requests to prise its Windows Media Player from its Windows operating system, nor would it bundle rival media players in its core operating system software.

But the Commission's tough-sounding rhetoric indicated it had no intention of backing down.

"At this stage, we have so much evidence and we are in possession of such a substantive file that we believe any decision we take will withstand scrutiny of the European court," Commission spokesman Tilman Lueder told a briefing.

Thomas Vinje, a lawyer and key Microsoft critic, lauded some aspects of the Commission's approach but said it faces a tough task wrangling with the software titan.

"The commission will have to be extremely diligent in administering and enforcing it because Microsoft will go to great lengths to circumvent it and render it ineffective," said Vinje, of the Computer and Communications Industry Association, a Microsoft opponent .

He also doubted the effectiveness of having Microsoft offer more than one media player.

"The only remedy which is likely to be effective against tying is untying," he said.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2003, 04:39:58 PM »
Bill should take his ball and go home.  Stop all support for Europe :)

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2003, 04:44:39 PM »
He wants to claim ownership to 1's and zeroes, can't wait til he stakes claim to the alphabet.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2003, 11:09:51 PM »
go away with that serious post!

all the fun stuff going on on the board and you gotta come along trying to get people's minds off boobies :mad:

























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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2003, 11:13:55 PM »
wtf you doing up this late over there? ;)

how's the job search going?
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2003, 11:15:12 PM »
jeeez, whats up with the new avatars? JB73 has a "dancing queen" avatar, roscoroo's sex sim and furball's "stickdeath" animation. I think they're great :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2003, 11:57:06 PM »
Heya  GScholz,

Do you have a web page or anything showing your work + typefaces etc.?

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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2003, 04:24:01 PM »
work is work here LOL :rolleyes:

next weekend i get to go visit my father in atlanta GA and golf ALL weekend at his country club :D

basically 5 days of golf then laying by the pool :D :p
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2003, 04:29:38 PM »
If I were Bill Gates I'd agree with the European Commission once everyone in Europe actually pays for their copy of Windows.

  Is that simple enough...?

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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2003, 04:33:27 PM »
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If I were Bill Gates I'd agree with the European Commission once everyone in Europe actually pays for their copy of Windows.

  Is that simple enough...?
get back on topic ! :mad:

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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2003, 04:50:13 PM »
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Originally posted by Otto
If I were Bill Gates I'd agree with the European Commission once everyone in Europe actually pays for their copy of Windows.

  Is that simple enough...?



Actaually belive it or not they are very strict with audits in some europain nations. I know for a fact that in poland you better not run a company with illigal software because GOVERNMENT ( not even MSFT ) will check if you have valid licences for your products and yank your licence.
They were very aggressive in terms of licencing over there. Which is why EU is hitting back i think. It's not like this in here ( US ). I would know. If someone ran a software audit in this company.... oh boy..