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Offline davidpt40

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« on: August 10, 2003, 07:17:19 AM »
Blurb from website:


Iraq 1991.. .

The Desert Storm air campaign has been underway for days.. the Iraqi Air Defense System's command, control and radars have been destroyed or suppressed. A coordinated air defense mixing fighter aircraft, guns (AAA) and missiles (SAMs) isn't possible. A low-level strike of A-6E Intruders from the USS Saratoga hits targets in Iraq under 1,000 feet at 600+ miles per hour. They encounter thick AAA ranging from small arms to 57mm rapid-firing cannon and hand-held SA-16 SAMs.Every Intruder is shot down except the flight leader who limps back severly damaged  . These losses cause U.S. Central Command to direct that all U.S. aircraft fly attack missions from at least medium altitude (above 5,000 feet) to avoid enemy air defense weapons. The Royal Air Forces' Tornado aircraft continue low-level strikes at supersonic speeds but heavy losses force them to medium altitude attack profiles when their laser targeting pods become available.

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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2003, 08:31:16 AM »
Counter blurbs:

[qutoe]On 17 January 1991, Desert Shield became Desert Storm, and Intruder squadron aircrews were once again in combat. Loss of two Navy A-6s in the first day's action led to tactics revisions, and only one more A-6 was lost to enemy ground fire during the remaining nearly six weeks until the 27 February cease fire. KA-6Ds and A-6Es using buddy tanker stores were part of an extensive aerial refueling force. Two shore-based Marine A-6 squadrons flew all-weather deep strike and later close air support missions without losses.
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/a-6-upgrades.htm
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2003, 09:51:01 AM »
Heavy losses of Tornados? Bullsh*t.  We lost 6, two when attacking runways.  

According to one of the pilots with whom I have spoken personally, and this is corroborated by other conversations, the problem with bombing the runways was not the defenders but that the bombs were designed for use on the concrete runways of Northern Europe but the Iraqi runways were built on sand so they could easily be bulldozed level and metal grating reapplied.

Which website are you citing?