Author Topic: Over 50% support ban on gay marriage (Read 955 times)

Dega · « **Reply #15 on:** August 19, 2003, 02:48:12 AM »

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Originally posted by StSanta
Aside from that; abide by the religious tenets or get out; you adapt to organized religion, not the other way around.

THANK YOU!

I have mailed your certificate, officially naming this the most intelligent response to a post I have seen anywhere on the O' Club forum!

Just when I was losing faith in man's ability to reason, you had to go and think something through logically and then have the stones to articulate it!

Me hats off to ya sir!

rpm · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2003, 02:58:37 AM »

If they are against Gay Marriage....does that mean they are Pro living in sin?

SOB · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2003, 03:29:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Dega
THANK YOU!

I have mailed your certificate, officially naming this the most intelligent response to a post I have seen anywhere on the O' Club forum!

Just when I was losing faith in man's ability to reason, you had to go and think something through logically and then have the stones to articulate it!

Me hats off to ya sir!

Ummm, that's great and all, and what he said makes sense, but that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. It's not about forcing religion to accept same-sex marriage, it's about legally recognizing same-sex marriage. Much like two heterosexual athiests have the right to get legally married.

SOB

Dega · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:05:03 AM »

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Originally posted by SOB
Much like two heterosexual athiests have the right to get legally married.

It's not about "legality". There is nothing a marriage can supply as far as legal rights that can't be obtained using other legal means - Powers of Attorney, Wills, Trust Funds, etc. It's about acceptance. About forcing others to accept a lifestyle choice they may find morally, ethically or religously wrong. What two adults do in private is their business in most cases, I accept that. Compelling others to suspend or deny their beliefs and "like" what they do is another thing all together.

Dowding · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:15:40 AM »

Why is extending the rights of secular marriage to gay couples akin to forcing their sexuality on you?

Fatty · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:20:00 AM »

You can't make a cult accept logic, Dowding.

Fatty · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2003, 06:26:07 AM »

Similarly Dega, I would like to see Christian marraiges outlawed, because I find them morally repugnant. I would prefer marraige restricted to a legal contract signed at the courthouse.

Letting people kneel and pray in private is one thing, I accept that. Compelling others to suspend or deny their beliefs and "like" what they do is another thing all together.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2003, 08:52:21 AM »

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If they are against Gay Marriage....does that mean they are Pro living in sin?

NO it means that Gays are already going to hell so why worry if they live together.

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Seems like the USA need a "final solution" to the gay problem, and if that doesn't work, give them their own country.

We thought we did already....France!:p

SOB · « **Reply #23 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:06:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Dega
It's not about "legality". There is nothing a marriage can supply as far as legal rights that can't be obtained using other legal means - Powers of Attorney, Wills, Trust Funds, etc. It's about acceptance. About forcing others to accept a lifestyle choice they may find morally, ethically or religously wrong. What two adults do in private is their business in most cases, I accept that. Compelling others to suspend or deny their beliefs and "like" what they do is another thing all together.

No, it's about extending the same rights afforded to a hetero couple that are married. Tax benefits, health insurance benefits, etc. Dowding already asked this, but I'll ask it again...what about this forces you to accept them? This is the USA, you've still got every right to hate them for being who they are, as long as you don't harm them.

SOB

funkedup · « **Reply #24 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:12:45 AM »

Those aren't rights, those are privileges.

IMHO the govt. should stop subsidizing marriage and reproduction. Then this gay marriage thing becomes a non-issue.

SOB · « **Reply #25 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:15:06 AM »

I can certainly agree with that.

SOB

Thrawn · « **Reply #26 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:37:17 AM »

Having same-sex marriages, but not calling them marriages, falls short of having equality for homosexuals.

Marriages are civil contracts under the law. I don't think religious ceremonies should have any bearing on a citizens relationship, under law, with their government.

If you have religous beliefs, so be it. Go have what ever bonding ceremony is advocated by that religion. It's should give you any extra responibilities or prilevgeds, under the law though. You are doing it for religious reasons in the first place right?

If you want to have the responsbilities and privledges of a marriage, then get a marriage licence, go see a justice of the peace.

Of course nothing is stopping someone from doing both.

Fuzzy · « **Reply #27 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:39:08 AM »

What tax advantage is there to being married??? Having kids and housing can provide tax advantages, but being married is oftentimes worse.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2003, 11:41:32 AM »

Considering that now the "bride" in a homosexual marriage could be a beneficiary, wouldn't that raise medical costs if homosexual marriages were recognized? Just asking, and if so, what else would increase in cost?

Fuzzy · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19, 2003, 04:46:26 PM »

JUST THINK OF ALL THE POSITIVE HEMOCULT RESULTS....

caps used intentionally to express my horror.