Iraq Terrorism

[john9001]

update....
iraq terriorsts truck bomb UN HQ building in bagadad...bad PR, thats not how terriorsts win the "hearts and minds" of the people.

[Stringer]

Originally posted by Maniac
Ya the americans has allways needed something to be paranoid about, first is was communism and now its terrorism...

Wag the fíng Dog...

Maniac,
This statement highlights the fact that you don't know much about the Average American.

We don't sit around being paranoid all the time.  If we did, we would have built a big wall around a city like say....Berlin or something.

9/11 happened in some part because we aren't paranoid.  It also happened because we can be naive as well.

For the vast majority of us, we seem to go about our daily activities, without being paranoid at all.  There are very specific limited duration times, when yes, we feel vulnerable, like immediately after a 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.  

Now, you mentioned communism and terrorism.  It seems both ideologies (if you can call terrorism an ideology), have demonstrated (as in tangible, specific acts) that they would rather the Americans not be around.  Does that make them right and us wrong....No, nor is the converse true as well.  

Of course, both are known for the benevolent ways in which they treat their OWN populace.  I can't imagine why, if communism is such a paradise, that the USSR collapsed under it's own weight.

In short, we don't always, and never have needed anything to be paranoid about.  We don't live our lives on a daily basis anywhere near want you described.

Governments will be paranoid.  That's what they do.  But, the American people are not, nor do we behave like your very simplified, wrong statement.

[Erlkonig]

Originally posted by Eagler
maybe this (Iraq war) is just a way to bring them out into the open where we can deal with the rats with our military on their turf instead of on our turf after the fact with with our police and firemen.

Sorry, not all the terrorists are as stupid as you.

[Udie]

nevermind

[threedays]

Originally posted by john9001
update....
iraq terriorsts truck bomb UN HQ building in bagadad...bad PR, thats not how terriorsts win the "hearts and minds" of the people.

im may be paranoid, but how do you know they were these evil terrorist ? .. it could be partizans as well

[threedays]

Originally posted by Stringer

9/11 happened in some part because we aren't paranoid.  It also happened because we can be naive as well.
 

i dont think it was only about naivity ....

its more about intolerance, ignorance and arogance... (lack of eduaction in international relation ships)

why do i think ? ... Just ask about official purpose of 9/11 act.
It have official reason, whitch is still on US administrative's ignore list.... so more and more US sheep die every day in Iraq with all these who support them, and more will die... every dead soldier in Iraq is only show of govermental ignorance to these statments.

More time US spend in Iraq, more clear are worries of 'terorists'
in the begining they were fantacis, now they are groups who warned agains real potencial thread ( specialy alquida)

and current situation is more less win for 'terrorist'

today i read in news paper, that Shia and Sunni are joining together in Iraq and they are offcialy agains US presence in Iraq
ok so 90% people will be agains US in next few months, coz they leaders will exlpain them why to be.
US offcials said about the fact, that people are joining, "its baaaad.. very baaad, coz they listen they religios leaders" instead of US Tv shop show

President of Iraqi TV, whitch came to Iraq from exile has canceled his contract, because americans didnt suply TV in time, when he didnt pass TV program to american 'observers' for censure and refused to use their 'advices'

did you hear about american soldier, whitch shoot man from Tv with camera, coz he 'think' that he have rocket luncher ?... lol
some journalist are a bit brainless too

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by threedays

did you hear about american soldier, whitch shoot man from Tv with camera, coz he 'think' that he have rocket luncher ?...

No laughing matter IMO. Put yourself in the shoes of a US Serviceman. You're buds are getting mowed down by RPG's, shoulder-launched.  Now, take a look at these "shouldered" cameras, which from about 100 feet and out, look just like a RPG.  I was frankly surprised this hadn't happened SOONER!

[john9001]

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they are  killing the sheep ...now thats going to far.

3daze,  you are so wrong on so many things i don't even know where to start. so live in your ignorance.

[Eagler]

sounds like some of you cheer on the terror

as long as it is against "evil america"

no wonder the world is as arse backwards as it is ...

[threedays]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
No laughing matter IMO. Put yourself in the shoes of a US Serviceman. You're buds are getting mowed down by RPG's, shoulder-launched.  Now, take a look at these "shouldered" cameras, which from about 100 feet and out, look just like a RPG.  I was frankly surprised this hadn't happened SOONER!

you miss my point ... i blame about cameraman... dunno, but messing around munition store with camera, i expect they gonna shoot me only coz i could spy ... soldiers acted right

[Ripsnort]

I'm not sure if they acted "right", but they reacted as they were trained.  Someone mentioned painting those camera's florescent orange...wouldn't work, then you'd have some of these guys with RPG's painting them orange.

[threedays]

Originally posted by Eagler
sounds like some of you cheer on the terror

as long as it is against "evil america"

no wonder the world is as arse backwards as it is ...

nobody said that america is evil .... (if so show me where)

i just said, that a lot of americans are ignorant on field of international relation ships and history

[threedays]

come on Rip ... if journalist want to move in country where every body wear gun and soldiers shoot al whats move closer that 110 meters to them, they should not walk out w/o big flag of UN or their oven country ... and when they want to film something, they should ask if it seems that object of their interest belongs to someone ... shouldnt they ?

[Mini D]

It just occurred to me that I don't miss either orel or towd at all.  Too bad their being banned from the HTC boards only translated to getting new IDs and posting the same old drivel.

Eagler,

I don't believe your initial assesment of the situation is anything even remotely accurate nor astute.  Dowding is going to win that debate because you're basing your argument on the "wouldn't it be wonderfull if all of our enemies were actually the same small group of people" sentiment.

To those that don't think we should be involved in Iraq, get a clue.  State run terrorism will no longer be something that is flaunted for all the world to see.  It will be dealt with.

MiniD

[threedays]

Mini D check history if you will annihilate small groups of 'terrorists' it will only form bigger groups

this never worked... anyway nobody still intersting in why they do sutch evil things... ohh welll ... have a nice day