Author Topic: Had to put my cat under today (Read 2223 times)

Sixpence · « **Reply #45 on:** August 24, 2003, 07:50:03 PM »

This is the lazy one.

majic · « **Reply #46 on:** August 24, 2003, 09:59:07 PM »

Condolences man.

loser · « **Reply #47 on:** August 24, 2003, 10:42:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Steve

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, POS. I'm sorry you werent/arent responsible and mature enough to care for something. Maybe if you werent such a sack of watermelon your parents would have allowed you to have a pet.

And this isn't about understanding about how someone can care for a cat or a dog or a butterin goldfish.

It is about respecting others and their feelings.

True this is just a game and just a BBS, but everyone is entitled to dignity and respect. Pfunk or his cat have never done anything to you, and you have no right to say what you did.

You owe Pfunk a sincere and honest apology.

rc51 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 25, 2003, 12:03:52 AM »

Steve I for one am not going to insult you.
It would not serve any purpose at all.
But You Did show a total lack of compassion to Pfunk.
You have to understand that right now his emotions are raw.
Wether you will ever understand the bond between a human and a pet I doubt it.
But for the sake of good old compassion towards another human being.
Perhaps you should have said nothing in this matter.
You know the old saying if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all.
You have a right to your opinion and you have a right to post on the board.
But i think you would have been the bigger man to have said nothing.
PS.
I am 6'4" and 270lbs ex Us Army Sniper Bravo-4
And I cried like a baby everytime i have to put down an animal of mine.
Now If you think I'm silly or less than a man!
I will be at the next CON and i will be glad to discuss what being a MAN is all about .

Pfunk · « **Reply #49 on:** August 25, 2003, 12:33:11 AM »

I am done letting Steve or anyone else know how I feel for that matter. And by the way you never said " I dont understand your feelings" instead you said that anyone who refered to a pet as a "loved one" has "issues" which is far from sayin that you dont understand my feelings, it was a direct insult plain and simple. Yes this is a public BBS BUT I figured there would be some amount of decorum in dealing with the issue. But Steve let that fly right out the window. My reason for posting is the same as others that post about lost squad mates, ill parents, or any loved one that has died or is in need. The comments that everyone with the exception of Steve have left here, have given me strength. Just as I thought they would. It's not about whether or not STEVE feels that it is abnormal for someone to feel the same way about a lost pet as say a lost family member, b/c in my mind and I'm sure in lots of other people's minds pets are in fact a family member that can bring just as much joy and laughter as a husband,wife,parent etc. As for this thread I am through, thanks again everyone (except..) for responding and helping me through a troubling time.

Mister Fork · « **Reply #50 on:** August 25, 2003, 12:55:05 AM »

Steve, this is your last warning. Leave it alone.

Mister Fork · « **Reply #51 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:10:47 AM »

If you like, you can discuss this with me off line at mister_fork@hitecreations.com.

Sleep of the anger. It's not worth it.

hblair · « **Reply #52 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:22:35 AM »

Although I agree steve expressed his feelings in a blunt way, especially since somebodys cat just died, I can kinda see where he's coming from. I too am befuddled when I read where people compare pets to people.

As a kid I remember our dalmation following my brother on his bicycle to the local grocery store. friendliest playful dog there ever was. Some punk teenager ran her over and I got to watch her lay in a ditch and struggle to breathe and have convulsions a few minutes before she died. That horrible scene still hurts. There was nothing I could do. Thinking about it makes me want to find out who did it even now. Anybody who'd run over a kids dog and just leave without stopping is a real ass.

Having said that, that was when I was a kid. I've kinda left all those feelings behind as an adult. I've got a wife and three kids. They are my loved ones. We have pets, one of which is a dachsund It barks constantly. It's a good dog, friendly and all. If it died tomorrow, I doubt I'd cry for it. I'd feel bad for the kids I'm sure.

I'm not saying i'm "more of a man" for not being close to our pets. I just don't have time for it, whatever that means. I don't understand a person who loves an animal like they do a person.

No animal is worth the life of the poorest crackhead potato in the world. Human life is much more precious IMO.

Sorry pfunk for your cat dying.

Lazerus · « **Reply #53 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:39:07 AM »

I didn't read the post, but I can sympathise with you. The day that hurricane Hugo hit, I had to find a vet that would put my cat out of his misery from feline lukemia. It took a few hours and I vividly remember the sounds coming from the back room of the emergency vet clinic that was open. He rode home on my lap and I felt the heat leave him, the stiffness come into him, and I petted him all the way home. Losing a loved pet is never an easy thing. I was awake for 40 hours moving my separated parents two houses contents out of harms way, and spent a few hours making, carving, and varnishing a box to bury my old cat in and making sure he was secure for the storm too.

It's a day I wont forget.

Mark Luper · « **Reply #54 on:** August 25, 2003, 01:48:26 AM »

As much as I "love" my cats and as much as it hurt when one of them passed on I can't really equate that feeling with the loss of a human loved one. It is different. My cats are strictly indoor cats, they depend on me for everything. I suppose the hurt comes in knowing I had done all I could but it still wasn't enough. It left me feeling wanting for some reason.

Pets provide a companionship much different than that experienced with other humans. They are totaly dependant on you not only for their food, water, and shelter but also for most of their entertainment. My cat Leo essentially waits all day for my return and when I do he and his "neices" are like my shadows. They try to comunicate with me so at times we sit there and "talk" to each other. (not always sure what is being said or agreed on but they seem satisfied after a bit)

When I found my two male cats and their sister they were barely walking. They were covered in fleas, wet and cold. I had just been laid off from a job so had some time on my hands. I took them in, bathed and de-flead them and had to feed them with a bottle just about every two or three hours for a couple of weeks until I could start feeding them more solid food. I was their parent in their eyes and of course they looked to me for all their needs. It changed my viewpoint of raising pets and having them. It required selflessness I wasn't acustomed to. In essence, it made a better human being out of me. I became much more patient and tolerant. The loss of one of those cats, a big orange Tabby named Red, was pretty devastating to me.

If one never has experienced a like situation one would never really understand the loss someone else might feel. I think saying "it's just a cat" was insensitive but I agree, my cat Red was just a cat.

Pfunk · « **Reply #55 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:10:48 AM »

Please guys leave it alone, stop this debate that Steve singlehandedly created, this thread should not have degenerated to a debate over pets as "loved one's". I am formally requesting for Skuzzy to either ban Steve, lock this thread or both.

Creamo · « **Reply #56 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:13:08 AM »

Well I damn sure do miss my fat cat Max. But like VCR's, cat's are about $35 for shots and neuter to get them from the shelter. They get lost and break down about the same too.

It's the long time family pets that are the heartbreakers, so i get TFunks point. I just don't get all excited about it. I'd ignore anyone that responded negative about it too. Makes you sound like a tool when you get all bent about it, but maybe that pissed him off. Some people actually watch soccer and kill eachother over it too, so who knows.

DmdMac · « **Reply #57 on:** August 25, 2003, 02:57:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Pfunk, I just don't see how one can care about an animal as much as... to use your comparison, one's mother. That is just....whacko, imo.
What was the purpose of this thread, anyway? I don't get it.

I'm coming into the meat of this exchange late. I issued my sentiments and retreated, but that does not relegate my sympathies to empty well wishing. I have lived with pets nearly all my life, and believe them essential. They foster kindness to lesser beings, and a race that can show gratitute to a lower species can certainly find it within the inflated sense of self-worth of itself to feel a fellowship to humanity.

To argue human rights and worths over those of animal requires a crisis between the two, one that is still truly pending. Certainly, I would kill the last rhinocerous in existance to save any one of human beings, and would glady sacrifice rats, cats and rabbits in abundance if it meant a cure for AIDS, cancer, or even Ebola, but too much of these creatures are spent on frivolous pursuits to the point of sadistic appeal. The creatures are lower than ourselves so it is acceptable to let them die without remorse, so it seems.

The nature of humanity, and I do say humanity as that is what I was born into, is to work toward the living progress, and the progress of living. Claim divine right by God's proclimation, or ascension to the ranks of worthy by evolution, by destruction of the living, or by apathy of death, we cannot relinquish the one part of us that ties our lofty selves to the lower species: we will all be equal in the grave. We, and all that lives, live once and are dead for ever after. And is not the aspect of dying worthy of some sympathetic regard?

DmdMac · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2003, 03:06:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
This is the lazy one.

That one, or perhaps it's only the picture, has a crooked lipped looked to it, like it's snearing. Great looking cat!

NOTE TO ADMIN: Your censoring is interfering with my creativity!

DmdMac · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2003, 03:21:18 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
When the dog I grew up with died, I cried.
When my brother died, I cried.

My sympathies for your loss. I have lost only a parent, and such losses are suppose to be natural and normal. The feeling of losing a sibling can only be unimaginable and unaccountable. I dread it. I comes and cannot be stopped. It is progressive and inevitable, but I still dread it. I'm not even sure who I would want or suspect it for first, them or me.

I can only send my condolences.