Author Topic: so brady (Read 1658 times)

Slash27 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 27, 2003, 07:59:05 AM »

No Corsairs!!

ergRTC · « **Reply #31 on:** August 27, 2003, 08:08:47 AM »

hmmm.... lanc versus 190a5. Somebody afraid of that soft little tummy? Lanc was great for night bombing, but in daylight it under gunned and vulnerable. unlike certain other bombers we know.

Skyfoxx · « **Reply #32 on:** August 27, 2003, 09:22:07 AM »

by brady

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Except that the F4U-1 vs the A6m5 and Tony is Not a balanced set up.

Well that's you're opinion, but that does not make it a fact.
If you want a balanced setup, enable 1 plane, the same plane for each side and limit the side numbers cause that is the only way you will ever get a truly balanced setup. But wait, balance is what I thought that the dueling arena was for.
Don't be so quick to write off the 61. In the right hands it is a formidable foe for the Hog. Fly it smart, pick your fights and live. The same can be said for the F4U. Fly either without proper tactics and some smarts and you will get nailed.

Good luck with you're F4U paranoia.

Regards

najdorf · « **Reply #33 on:** August 27, 2003, 10:32:51 AM »

The performance of the N1k is not much better than the Ki61 and the top speed for both is practically the same. So why is it ok for a N1K vs. F4U-1 and not Ki61 vs. F4U-1?

brady · « **Reply #34 on:** August 27, 2003, 12:47:21 PM »

The George is a bit faster than the Tony and it climbs much better under around 8K, the Tony we have in AH is the worst climbing of all of the Tony's, so while the F4U-1 enjoys a huge spead advantage over both planes at least the George can climb better down low and as such is much more competative than the Tony, the George also has better firepower than the Tony, which offset's to a degree the F4U's firepower advantage over the Tony.

http://www.jannousiainen.net/online_sims/jg_4/index.htm

LtMagee · « **Reply #35 on:** August 27, 2003, 01:11:41 PM »

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while the F4U-1 enjoys a huge spead advantage

You kidding me right?
Sure the F4U is faster but you have to keep it fast which means no furballing or you get caught with ur pants down.

The George retains E very well and aquires it with ease while the F4U is a bloody sitting duck unless its diving in for the kill, or diving out for home! Even while diving out for home, you better had already started out diving with speed unlike the P-40 vs A6M2.

P-40 is a piece of SHI^ vs the A6M2 if both are close with speed and energy. If the A6M2 is at co-alt or higher, you had better be a damn good pilot or your squad mate will be packing your "going home box"!

Sakai · « **Reply #36 on:** August 28, 2003, 11:59:04 AM »

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Originally posted by LtMagee
You kidding me right?
The George retains E very well and aquires it with ease . . .

I don't find the George to accelerate as well as any US plane except the Jug.

Anyone else? It seems a tad sluggish at first. It handles better at low speeds than does the Corsair, but then, the Corsair is really the most picked on in terms of modeling, just ask all the devotees. F4UDOA can document for you just how much the F4U is screwed in every single aspect of game pay including how much your salary should increase and your noodle lengthen each time you fly one.

Ask the 109 freaks about the 109s, they got screwed too.

Oh, and ask the 190 freaks about their favorite ride: yep, screwed.

And the Spit jockeys? Really screwed, Yak afficianados as well, as were the Zeke freaks, the P-38 junkies, the B-17 isn't tough enough . . .

Yadda yadda yadda.

Sakai

Sakai · « **Reply #37 on:** August 28, 2003, 12:05:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Oldman731
I know you think this is so, Brady, but it just doesn't fit with my experience. Seems to me that the Corsairs never do particularly well in any of these setups (well, OK, if they're just flying against A6M2s I suppose they do fine). As a Frequent Flyer for the Emperor, I worry a lot more about Hellcats, even P40Es, than I do about Corsairs. So if people want them, I say, let them have them.

- oldman

I'd do a Ki-61/A6M5 vs. The F4 setup. There's plenty of dolts who try and turn Big Blue to shoot down.

Sakai

Squire · « **Reply #38 on:** August 28, 2003, 01:09:19 PM »

The whole myth of the invincible F4U-1 has been started, and fed, by a handfull of people in the CT, and then they seek to convince newbies who dont know better that its true, despite the real evidence thats its complete bunk (stats evidence, film, testimony from players). The fact thats it the "we love the axis" setup folks who refuse to include them colors the entire thing in favoratism as well.

My mother could down a F4U-1 in a Ki-61 in the CT, why cant you?

Another thing, that completely ridiculous bomber comparison? how far you going to take that eh? ETO 1944, I suppose we wont see any B-17s? because they have such a larger capacity than the Ju88, right?...using the same logic, right? all has to be "balanced"? In a pigs eye, and you know it.

Hang on, there is a crop circle on the local news....in the shape of a Corsair!!!

I HAVE TO GO!!! ITS A MESSAGE!!!

Sakai · « **Reply #39 on:** August 28, 2003, 01:18:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Squire
The whole myth of the invincible F4U-1 has been started, and fed, by a handfull of people in the CT,
Hang on, there is a crop circle on the local news....in the shape of a Corsair!!!

I HAVE TO GO!!! ITS A MESSAGE!!!

Heh, beauty. But you know, that crop circle is overmodeled as hell if it is in fact an F4U. Everyone know the real F4U crop circles were only made in wheat fields, not corn fields.

;-)

Let's have a "Jarheads Delight" setup with Corsairs, B-26S, A-20s, B-17s, TBMs and SBDs versus the Jap planeset.

Make an arena with many small Islands and let's do an Island hopping campaign. Enable LVTs for amphibian attacks, give the Allies the panzers for Shermans and the Japs the M-8 for their armor.

I'd fly either side in that one.

Sakai

Eagler · « **Reply #40 on:** August 28, 2003, 02:13:47 PM »

though these treads start out as whines, they are good info as I don't know much about each plane but pushing the throttle forward speeds them up and pulling it back slows them down ...

very educational, now if I can just remember it all

Slash27 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:04:15 PM »

Hang on, there is a crop circle on the local news....in the shape of a Corsair!!! hehehehe:D

I don't find the George to accelerate as well as any US plane except the Jug. I think it does but I have no factual proof. All depends on the situation too.

ergRTC · « **Reply #42 on:** August 28, 2003, 09:51:14 PM »

I think the hurri 1, 109e, spit 1, p40b and e, and f4f are all perfectly modeled. Seriously. I think this shows improvement. OR maybe I have never flown these planes in real life, they tend to do what they are supposed to do. For that matter f4u all models do what they were supposed to do. Oh yeah the zekes seem pretty nicely modeled as well.

but thats just me.

Sakai · « **Reply #43 on:** August 29, 2003, 07:29:03 AM »

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Originally posted by ergRTC
I think the hurri 1, 109e, spit 1, p40b and e, and f4f are all perfectly modeled. Seriously. I think this shows improvement. OR maybe I have never flown these planes in real life, they tend to do what they are supposed to do. For that matter f4u all models do what they were supposed to do. Oh yeah the zekes seem pretty nicely modeled as well.

but thats just me.

I'm with you. They left my 4 20 mms off the Kate, and it lacks plate armor, but we can work on that.

Sakai