damn, Oslo is the most expensive city in the world..

[Staga]

Well I paid more taxes in a year than some of my friends in two; IMHO I have a right to get some of that money back.
Heck even the car I bought had over 10.000 dollars of taxes on it's price tag...

My unemplyment checks are this big only for first 500 days; after that they would shrink pretty badly.
I don't mind; I have no intentions to stay at home that long.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Staga
Well I paid more taxes in a year than some of my friends in two; IMHO I have a right to get some of that money back.
Heck even the car I bought had over 10.000 dollars of taxes on it's price tag...

My unemplyment checks are this big only for first 500 days; after that they would shrink pretty badly.
I don't mind; I have no intentions to stay at home that long.

500 days, a year and a half....  But imagine you wer allowed to keep those $10,000 in taxes and even more on your income and had invested it or even just saved it, you would have been better off.  

Oh does everyone get same level unemplyment benefit? Does a bus driver get the same as you do if he lost his job?

[SLO]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
But, we're not teasing, Canada is seriously the red-headed step-child of the North American continent(Socialism, screwed up politics, etc).  I can only assume the same of Norway.

wonder if they have a 'MOST' self-centered country in the world.....

Bet ya RIp's country would win hands down

OH ya.....we just ignore people like RIP:D

[Maniac]

Oh does everyone get same level unemplyment benefit? Does a bus driver get the same as you do if he lost his job?

In Sweden you get an percentage of your income... like 70-80% i think...

I think its the same there...

[Nilsen]

same here manic, i belive you get 75% of your average income the last 2 years before you lost your job. You get that for about a year i think and you loose the right to that money if you say no to a job offering.

[Urchin]

Sorry Grun, the 'best way to get ahead in the USA' is to be born rich.  What I want is a country where everyone gets paid a living wage, where everyone has access to health care, and where everyone who could make use of it has access to free education.  Granted, I'm not an economist, so I couldn't tell you what would happen if the minimum wage was raised to to 12 or 13 dollars an hour (which I would consider the absolute minimum floor for being able to sustain one person).  Knowing what I do about people, I'd wager that the greedy rich ****bags that run this country would probably just raise prices 400% so that there wouldn't be any real difference anyway.

[Staga]

In here you pay a certain percentage of your income as unemployment insurance tax; earn more = pay more.
Now if you lose your job you're going to get a pretty small checks.
If you're also a member of union and pay for them too then if you lose your job you're going to get money from two sources (in same checks thought): basic part comes from government and additional part from union.

Low salary workers get bigger benefits: If you earn 2.000$/month you would get maybe 1300$ as unemployment checks but with 4000$/month maybe 1800$ or so.


Oh well, looks like that company I visited wants to hire me after the management course. Bad thing is I talked with couple workers over there and it seems like it's not the best place to be.
Two earlier chiefs/superintendents left the company pretty fast 'cause upper management gave idiotic orders.
Anyway I don't have to sign a contract with them before april so I'm free to leave them and begun to work with another company if I or the consults will find a place which is more interestsing

[Nilsen]

Ok thx Gscholz...
Never been on unemployment so i wasnt sure

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Nilsen10
Ok thx Gscholz...
Never been on unemployment so i wasnt sure

I was unemployed for 8 months once, but refused to accept unemployment compensation.  Its welfare with a different name.

Edit: Dang, this sat there for 2 hours, no takers.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Urchin
What I want is a country where everyone gets paid a living wage, where everyone has access to health care, and where everyone who could make use of it has access to free education.  

At first I thought you might want to check out Cuba or China...then I realised that Canada fit the bill rather nicely.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Urchin
Sorry Grun, the 'best way to get ahead in the USA' is to be born rich.  What I want is a country where everyone gets paid a living wage, where everyone has access to health care, and where everyone who could make use of it has access to free education.  Granted, I'm not an economist, so I couldn't tell you what would happen if the minimum wage was raised to to 12 or 13 dollars an hour (which I would consider the absolute minimum floor for being able to sustain one person).  Knowing what I do about people, I'd wager that the greedy rich ****bags that run this country would probably just raise prices 400% so that there wouldn't be any real difference anyway.

Quite honestly Urchin your whole problem is that you are not educated well enough and I dont mean that as a putdown of any sort - I'm simply saying that you will laugh at those statements you wrote after you take a few college level econ classes.

 
As for the idea that only the allready "rich" can prosper in america, well i thought that too about politics, that only rich sons like gore and bush or the kennedys got to be natioanl leaders. But thats not true at all, and that fact is amply demonstrated by Bill Clinton who was born to poor drunk trailer trash parents but through his hard work and intelligence he earned addmittance to the finest schools here and abroad , went on the become a lawyer, a succesful local politicann, governer and of course president.

The point is, go to school and allow yourself to learn stuff so you dont stay uniinformed and unhappy like you are now and instead give the economy solid reasons to provide you the income level you desire for yourself and your family.

[Staga]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I was unemployed for 8 months once, but refused to accept unemployment compensation.  Its welfare with a different name.

I don't know how it's there but in here, as I said earlier,  you're paying certain percentage of your salary to the government as unemployment insurance fee, and if you join to the union some percentage for them for unemployment fund.
I can't see any difference if you pay the money to the government or to the private owned insurance corporation.
At least you know that when government is running that service you don't have to be afraid that someone collects the money, takes a flight to the southern america and leaves you without any insurance

btw same goes with health care; it's not free but we all have paid our share of it in taxes.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Curval
Urchin...very very true.

I audited a company in Arizona a few years back.  When I looked at the payroll I couldn't believe the low wages that were being paid to some employees.  The reason...they got health care benefits and would accept such low wages just to have it.

I couldn't figure out how some of these people could survive.

no offence Curval, but I have never known anyone in my life that took a job at low wages just to get health care.

Arizona's cost of living is among the lowest in the country. A nice BIG house in Phoenix that cost 150-200k would cost you a million or more in many areas of California for instance.

When I was making $300.00 a week, I rented a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom house for $600.00 a month ( 1988) . I also at that time paid for my school, car, Harley sportster motorcycle, worked 40 hours a week, and had/treated for cancer, nice guitars, a descent 8 channel recording studio...... all on my $300.00 a week and living on my own.

[Curval]

Originally posted by NUKE
no offence Curval, but I have never known anyone in my life that took a job at low wages just to get health care.

Arizona's cost of living is among the lowest in the country. A nice BIG house in Phoenix that cost 150-200k would cost you a million or more in many areas of California for instance.

When I was making $300.00 a week, I rented a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom house for $600.00 a month ( 1988) . I also at that time paid for my school, car, Harley sportster motorcycle, worked 40 hours a week, and had/treated for cancer, nice guitars, a descent 8 channel recording studio...... all on my $300.00 a week and living on my own.

No offense taken at all.

You have provided a better explanation than the controller of the company did.

Amazing what $300 a week can get you there....you're right I imagine.  Everyone seemed to have a nice car etc.

[Maniac]

I was unemployed for 8 months once, but refused to accept unemployment compensation. Its welfare with a different name.

How much tax do you pay on your monthly income rip?

I have to pay 32% thats about 800 dollars an month that i dont get anything from... And ive been working for  10 years straight and in all of that time i have payed 32% of my monthly income...

Thats an whole lot of money... And on top of that you have to pay an extra fee each month too be able to "recive" money when you get unemployed... If you dont pay this extra fee each month then your out of luck...