an another usefull patch

[Hornet]

bump for Rude  

[AKSWulfe]

Yeah, no kidding Hornet. Geezus, what brand of tissues do you buy RAM?

I feel buying stock in it would be a terrific investment.
-SW

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]

[Creamo]

Originally cried by R4M:
[QB]

in a business you dont get people pissed if you can avoid it...but dunno here.

QB]

And just how could HTC not piss you off? That would be a benchmark in game developing history.

[R4M]

Originally posted by Creamo:


And just how could HTC not piss you off? That would be a benchmark in game developing history.

Creamo I'm not talking about HTC, I'm talking about this particular issue.

I've been pretty happy with AH lately, yet this has got me angry. A not very big black spot on a bright game, but a black spot anyway.

[SOB]

Originally posted by R4M:

hum... because I say what I think instead of keeping my mouth shut and being a good (but silent guy)?.

No, actually that's got nothing to do with it.  There's a difference between voicing your concern about the lack of options on the 190, and squeaking and moaning to the BBS immediately after a patch has been completed because "their" plane got good stuff and "yours" didn't.


 

Originally posted by R4M:

Then I guess I'd be a 12-year-old forever. Guess is in my genes to say what I think.    

I kinda doubt it.  Hopefully (for your sake) with age, you'll find that there are better ways to react to situations or decisions that you disagree with.


SOB

[Am0n]

Havent found any pics yet, but heres some data from a few web pages for you R4M..

"The weight of the plane when empty was 10,998 pounds or 5 1/2 tons. It could carry a useful load of from 1 to 5 tons."


"Bomb Load: 2500 lb (1134 kg) including bombs and up to 8 rockets"


"Heavily armed with eight wing-mounted .50-inch machine guns, it could carry a bomb load of as much as 2,500 pounds (1,100 kg) and could carry 10 5-inch rockets beneath the wings."


"Armament:
Eight 12.7mm (0.5 in.) wing mounted machine guns. Up to 2500 lbs. of externally-mounted bombs, rockets, or other free-fall ordinance."

Just the first 4 web pages i found after doing a search for "p-47 load out". Dont need to post much more i hope, you should really do some research before starting a argument like this.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]

[Blue Mako]

Fixed a bug that would not allow you to decrease rpm if you ran out of fuel while WEP was
engaged.

May I point out that I was the one who posted this as a bug...  Do I win anything for getting my bug fixed?  Steak knives maybe?  
 
WTG HTC, great patch.

[Raubvogel]

Hate to admit it, but Ram has a point. We've pointed out over and over that the F8 is missing valuable loadout options. The quirks with the P47 were posted once, and BAM, they're fixed. I'm not whining about it, I just see where he's coming from.

Amon, you missed the point. A AH P47D30 can take a full load of 50cal ammo in addition to the other ordnance. That is an overload condition.

Anyways...if the Jug was wrong, I'm glad it got fixed. Not like its going to affect my flying one bit.

[Karnak]

RAM,

The difference is, I think, that the changes you guys are asking for would require new graphics.  None of the fixes in these patches require new artwork to be done.

The droptanks already exist, the 500lb bombs already exist.

The German rockets do not exist.  They need to do new art for them.

If I were you, I'd focus on the 250kg bombs as they do exist.

[-ammo-]

WTG HTC! The big external fuel tanks were standard and I appreciate you including this in your update!  And... We still see that RAM is still very much capable of "mommy I didnt get what I want" whines..all in the same stroke   (personally, I knew he was still capable)

The whole update is just a picture of how much work you guys put into this sim  

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: -ammo- ]

[R4M]

Originally posted by Am0n:
Havent found any pics yet, but heres some data from a few web pages for you R4M..
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Just the first 4 web pages i found after doing a search for "p-47 load out". Dont need to post much more i hope, you should really do some research before starting a argument like this.

Am0n, yes, the P47 was able to load those things. But not all at the same time, tho.

Keep on searching. YOu may find pics of P47N5s (wich had a notably different wing) with that loadout, but none of a P47D30.

If you dont believe me, maybe I should read you the loadouts of the 190F8. believe me there were lots of them. Just not all of them carried at the same time  


Ammo:
Coming from someone who was asking P51Ds to be perked, not so long ago (an given the tone of your posts in that thread  ), the "crybaby" call you give me seems very funny   Thanks for the laugh.


SOB:

 I say what I think in the way I think it. Maybe what changes with age is the way I see the things, but I wont ever silence my opinion.  


Karnak:

The 190F8 problem has been discussed for months. Is not exactly a late-hour issue. Anyway wing DTs don't require new artwork. 250kg wing bombs don't require new artwork. But the F8 still lacks both, when it could load them historically.


For the record, I simply think HTC has added something wich they should add (that DT was standard equipment for the P47s). But I simply thing there are some issues wich require to be revised ,too, and more urgently than the DTs for the P47. And I'm not talking about the 190F8 only. Of course I'm pissed because the F8 has been repeatedly ignored for months while the P47 has got its DTs almost instantly. But is not the only case, I repeat. More planes are lacking weapon loadouts, not just the F8.

And the P47D30 can take off with an unrealistic loadout. That has been, too, ignored for months.

[ 11-29-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[Hobodog]

No more CV dweebery.

[Wardog]

Ram...

 

This Focke Wulf FW 190F8 , was equiped with PB2 anti-tank rockets . This close view shows the metal fixing parts of the wooden rocket launcher . This feature is very interesting as it seems that the rocket launcher was intalled in the factory and not retro-fitted . The wing was also covered of aluminium patched to fill small caliber bullet holes .

Interesting info, the fact that the rocket launcher brackets where built into the 190F8 and not refitted.

As for bombs & droptanks on wing, ive never run across and info saying the 190F8 had these.. Still looking though.

Dog out......

[ra]

R4M,

Why don't you post pictures of the F8 with rockets or 250kg wing bombs?  A picture is worth a thousand words.

<<<I'm sure lots of americans would get really happy to see their mustang with a 109's acceleration>>>

Why do you think only Americans fly the P-51, and why do you think anyone who flys one type of plane doesn't fly any other, and why do you think anyone who flys only one type of plane wants the other types to be porked?  Do you want planes you don't fly to be porked?  I doubt it, so what makes you think your fellow AH'ers are less sportsmanlike than you?

You, and some others like you, come to this game with a weird sense of victimhood.

ra

[Am0n]

Raubvogel

The point of my post was answering R4M's request for evidence that the P47 could in realality carry as much ord as it currently can in AH.

Since he's ignorant, i see he is still saying it cannot carry it all at once when in the last quote said "Up to 2500 lbs. of externally-mounted bombs, rockets, or other free-fall ordinance"

And you are correct in saying thats a "overload condition", if youve flown the jug under those condition you'll see its also true for AH.