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« Reply #105 on: December 01, 2001, 12:18:00 AM »
Does anybody else here suffer from chronic tinnitus(ringing in your ears)?  I've abused my ears since I was a kid through firearms, music, and working in aviation.  I now suffer chronic tinnitus and high frequency hearing loss.  My ears are always ringing, it's not an occasional state.  Yet I rarely notice it.  It's only when I think about it that I notice it.  For the most part, I'm successful in ignoring this irritating and chronic condition that has driven some people to suicide.  I am often amazed at my inherent ability to filter this nuisance out.  Once I think about it, it just amazes me that just a moment before I didn't even notice it when now it is a din in my ears.  It's weird.  I've come to the conclusion that I have a pretty good low-pass filter built into my brain.  I also think this ability extends beyond filtering out audible sensations.  What I've been recently wondering about is whether other tinnitus sufferers have similar abilities.  I read this thread and I realize how much other stuff I filter on a day to day basis and wonder if it's related to suffering from tinnitus.

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« Reply #106 on: December 01, 2001, 12:24:00 AM »
Ouch  :)

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« Reply #107 on: December 01, 2001, 12:31:00 AM »
Nice one, Pyro!

Funk, don't worry... it'll go right over his head.   :D
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« Reply #108 on: December 01, 2001, 07:29:00 AM »
We were always told it makes you blind, not deaf......

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« Reply #109 on: December 01, 2001, 08:59:00 AM »
Ram reads pyro's post and wonders what that had to do with FW's and P-47's.

LOL, I got aggravated myself :) Shame on me for breaking my own rule.
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« Reply #110 on: December 01, 2001, 09:38:00 AM »
I have that condition too, Pyro, though I didn't know the name for it. Sorry to have been part of bringing your attention back to the "din".

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« Reply #111 on: December 01, 2001, 09:40:00 AM »
Get a big cotton swab... and push  ;)


"the highly unrealistic ammo counters from all planes except the german ones"

I agree, I'd love this option. Makes people not spray and pray knowing their ammo to the last bullet. Or if they spray and pray, they will suddenly hear the click-o-youintroublebuddy sound.

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« Reply #112 on: December 01, 2001, 12:37:00 PM »
Kieren: Was not to argue with you. Was to give my opinion on creamo's source reliability. See the smilie at the end of my post answering you.

Had I posted that answer to creamo, then I'd be a LWhiner because I think that any source not backing my points is not reliable. Had I posted that answer to you (when you were in fact backing my point), then is that I dont read other's posts.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't <G>.

Think whatever you want. In fact is what you do isnt it?  :)


 
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Nice one, Pyro!

Funk, don't worry... it'll go right over his head.    :D


Nah, Toad. in fact I have extracted some sad consequences from this thread.

Once again   :)


What amazes myself is that just some months ago I'd have felt sad and even unhappy by that answer.Now I simply don't mind, and it really surprises me   :).

 I have learnt some lessons about HTC today, too. Not good lessons, but I'll keep those thoughts to myself. (another thing wich I'd not have done just 6 months ago   :D   ;))

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« Reply #113 on: December 01, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »
Here's a thought for you; did it ever occur to you that all references have errors, and what one should do is to collect references from as many as possible to build an argument? To automatically refute all information from a book because some of the information is erroneous is about as invalid as taking one book as the end-all, be-all source.

FWIW, I never said the book was the definitive source, only that I found a reference to that which you were defending. BTW, do you know what a Pyrrhic victory is?   ;)

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« Reply #114 on: December 01, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
Your ping ponging back and forth on so many topics, good grief.

You have to stay on topic or start 5 new threads.

Your between actually being really pissed about HTC developing planes before others, 190F8 variants not complete or properly represented, which books concerning this are correct, which are not, which are not correct and agree with you, which are correct and agree with you but not others, etc…

Then there’s why you can’t answer me because it’s a super clever ploy by you to avoid a Lwiner moniker, and now your switching to play the “Poor ‘Ol me card” to include what a better person you are today, and because of it you can take the abusive online AH community led by that mean ‘Ol ringleader Pyro who as we all know pipes in on every thread just to pick on the innocents.

One can only speculate what bad lessons HTC teaches you and all the bad cards they play only you.

When important things in reality and life hit like the day you get a job and your first tax bill, Pyro’s won’t be the only ears ringing from the screaming.  I personally can’t wait.

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« Reply #115 on: December 01, 2001, 01:17:00 PM »
well said by creamo.  He's got you down to a tee. Basically R4M is full of crap.

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« Reply #116 on: December 01, 2001, 02:46:00 PM »
Ram,

Maybe you got the message he intended for the entire community (IMO) but I doubt it.

The very fact that you apparently think he aimed directly and only at you makes me wonder if you did.
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« Reply #117 on: December 01, 2001, 04:05:00 PM »
Toad.

I was not referring to Pyro's message itself, But about his long and complete silence about the topic in discussion...He has done just the same in the A&V forum, too. For months. He has posted several times there to answer several questions and explain many things about other planes, FMs, etc. AFAIK, he uses to give some good input when questions and suggestions are made in that forum.

Yet.. I can't recall ONE post from Pyro talking about the Fw190F8 loadouts. See, there have been quite many threads in the Aircraft forums, all of them quite well documented...but nothing from him. And here, once again, he comes into the discussion and ignores COMPLETELY the F8 matter...

He has also kept a complete silence about the Fw190A5 speed chart also in the A&V forum. He posted a couple of days ago in the A&V forum, when that thread was up... but je ignored that thread... And that was what I was referring to when I talked about "the lesson HTC has teached me". They ignore some topics on purpose: there is not another explanation to such a complete silence on certain matters, for such a looooooooong time.

When the P47 FM was put into doubt he came to say it was OK (granted, in his test version it was OK, not in the user's version -wich lead to a long time before a fix, but he took the time to there and say he had looked into it.). When the Paddle prop for the D11 was discussed he came there and explained why it wasnt modelled. When the P38 FM was discussed, several times he has posted about it. Same about the DM of some planes (including, yes, the Fw190's engine problem). And a long etcetera.

All those things made me think Pyro was quite fair and explanative, and that he gave quite good information in the forums when he was asked. Any information, about anything.

But he has given no answer about the F8 loadouts. Nothing...so what I thought about him is not true. That is the lesson I learnt.  :)

 Its OK...this is HTC's game; Pyro is the man who models planes FMs ,DMs and gunnery models. And of course he's absolutely free to post about what he wants and to dont say a word about what he doesn't. But what it happens, is that I just thought different from HTC.  :)


But anyway, yes,I took his message as more or less aimed at me. Maybe it was directed for the whole community but yes, I took especially for me. As for the reason why I took it that way, I'd say that he has posted in -this- thread, where I get so heavily involved...Not in other thread. and there have been quite MANY threads with complains lately...this at least has had some good technical discussion about the Fw190F8...but you'll tell me which good had the Mindanao threads.

Yet he posted here. Reason?. Me ,I guess. I may be wrong?. Sure...but is the way I took it.

Anyway I don't mind . If that is what he thinks about me, then I'm sorry...there's not much I can do at this stage, right?   :).

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« Reply #118 on: December 01, 2001, 04:24:00 PM »
P.S: and just for the sake of clarity. I know perfectly that Pyro or HT could be completely silent about their FMs, DMs, etc. In the current software industry this is pretty usual, yet they are very communicative and tend to be "near the community".

So dont take me wrong, I dont say that I think that HTC suddenly sucks   ;). I still think they rock in many ways, and that they are some of the best developers around (if not the best). Just now I feel a bit dissapointed about a couple of matters I didnt felt that way before.

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