Author Topic: Pilots I need help with the centerline (Read 1649 times)

mia389 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:08:29 PM »

Thanks guys for all the advice,, tomorrw morning Ill try some of it. Ill try looking down the rwy farther and defiently try a narrow strip around here. Ive always wondered if I would hit the pavement or the grass on something more narrow. I know I am my instructors first student so its new to both of us. Usally shes really cool but today she was beatchy from the takeoff. Hopefully tomorrow goes better. I do use rudders quite abit on the approach but I seem to mess my flight path up more then anything. Someone said it will just come and I do believe that it will, I just hope its soon. My flares wernt the best then one day I just hit one and they rocked from there on. Currently have 22 hours, 4 of em solo Thanks guys <> Ill keep ya updated

FBsmokey

mia389 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:10:58 PM »

hehe wonder is she would get pissed If i sent her the link to here:) I better not

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:14:43 PM »

"a good instructor is always learnign"

Grizzly · « **Reply #18 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:29:10 PM »

You're thinking about it. It's like a self fulling prophesy. Some day when you are working to correct another problem, you will realize you ain't doing this no more. Nothing but a little hump to get over, your instructor knows this, or should. Sounds like she's making you nervous. Ask for the help of another instructor on this one issue, she shouldn't mind.

Dago · « **Reply #19 on:** August 26, 2003, 06:33:28 PM »

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having problems with holding the center line on the runway

First off, I never have trouble with the centerline staying on the runway, where I fly it never moves, it is painted on just fine.

Second, get a new instructor, women shouldn't fly and we certainly know they spend enough time telling us what to to the rest of our lives.

Third, if you absolutely have to fly with her, next time yell out "back off biatch, I'm in the left seat and I'am flying this aircraft".

heheheh If you follow number 3, you will probably have a new Instructor shortly, possible at a differant flight school.

You have been given some good advice, relax, stay on the pedals, look down the runway some, it will be handy if you can get the hang of maintaining centerline as alot of examiners will watch for that on your checkride.

dago

udet · « **Reply #20 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:20:07 PM »

mia, where in Florida are you flying from?
I have about the same # of hours as you

funkedup · « **Reply #21 on:** August 26, 2003, 07:24:17 PM »

It's bad enough having a woman tell me how to drive. I can't imagine having one yapping away when I'm trying to land an airplane.

mia389 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:11:20 PM »

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Originally posted by udet
mia, where in Florida are you flying from?
I have about the same # of hours as you

DeLand Florida

Regional Airline Accedemy

mia389 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:14:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago
First off, I never have trouble with the centerline staying on the runway, where I fly it never moves, it is painted on just fine.

Second, get a new instructor, women shouldn't fly and we certainly know they spend enough time telling us what to to the rest of our lives.

Third, if you absolutely have to fly with her, next time yell out "back off biatch, I'm in the left seat and I'am flying this aircraft".

heheheh If you follow number 3, you will probably have a new Instructor shortly, possible at a differant flight school.

You have been given some good advice, relax, stay on the pedals, look down the runway some, it will be handy if you can get the hang of maintaining centerline as alot of examiners will watch for that on your checkride.

dago

LOL dago you crack me up.

Today I almost was to my limit, would of felt good saying
"back off biatch, I'm in the left seat and I'am flying this aircraft".

udet · « **Reply #24 on:** August 26, 2003, 08:51:10 PM »

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Originally posted by mia389
DeLand Florida

Regional Airline Accedemy

haha Daytona here. I'm a Riddle boy but I don't fly with them. U guys getting it on with the Stetson chicks, right?

Dago · « **Reply #25 on:** August 26, 2003, 09:15:50 PM »

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back off biatch, I'm in the left seat and I'am flying this aircraft".

Glad you liked it.

Thinking about it, there are many times I think yelling this out would be appropriate, even when not in an aircraft. Imagine the look a womans face when you yelled it while driving a car, ordering a meal, putting up a Christmas tree, painting a room, etc.

dago

Bodhi · « **Reply #26 on:** August 26, 2003, 10:02:12 PM »

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Originally posted by udet
haha Daytona here. I'm a Riddle boy but I don't fly with them. U guys getting it on with the Stetson chicks, right?

My condolences Udet

jigsaw · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2003, 10:34:41 PM »

Here are some things I do with my students that helps sometimes...

Fly low approaches about 5-10 feet above the runway but not touching down. That will keep you in ground effect where you have to work more to stay on centerline. At some point when they're comfortable with tracking centerline, I pull power on them.
They usually learn to track centerline, flare, and add in crosswind correction within a few tries. Have your instructor fly the first few, with you looking outside to pick up the visual cues around you.

Most common problem I see is people "stop flying the plane" when they get low, and just let the wind or turning tendencies push them around.

Another thing that helps for getting lined up on final...
Use the approach and departure ends like a gun sight to tell if you're lined up. If you're relying on markings at this point in your training, you'll have problems when you go to an unfamiliar airport.

Golfer · « **Reply #28 on:** August 27, 2003, 12:52:36 AM »

RELAX!

And if you really want to challenge yourself, fly into someplace thats got a 25-30 foot wide hunk of asphalt on a windy day.

Flew into a little place called Brookville on the west side of Dayton during the airshow and my squadron's annual reunion (Flew into Cox the first day, Thursday, of the airshow. Had my parking arrangements get botched and found an easier place to get to) and this little sucker was 25x2500 with trees at both ends.

Daytime approach in the morning wasn't so bad, took note of where the trees were, power lines, and towers were nearby and flew the approach. 8kts across the runway, piece of cake. Came back that night after work (live/work in columbus) and had a heart to heart chat with the pilot controlled lights for a while before they would kick on, then they turned on on my last 3 clicks as i turned to divert. flew my first approach, flaps to full (only 30º in a 1999 172R) maintain 55kts. Got a little quick on final and around i go. Second approach, fly it down to short final and point the nose down, 60kts now just before i firewall the throttle again the landing light takes effect and i see asphalt! Power off and a quick sideslip shuffle, plop the mains down and up with the flaps then on to the brakes. Down and stopped in time to make the one and only turnoff.

There are plenty of places in florida that have "thin" runways, fly over there and have a different taste of keeping the centerline...especially when there isn't one painted on the runway

Scootter · « **Reply #29 on:** August 27, 2003, 11:15:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Golfer

There are plenty of places in florida that have "thin" runways, fly over there and have a different taste of keeping the centerline...especially when there isn't one painted on the runway

north county airport near Orlando (may be called north country) is as I recall about 25 ft wide (hard to find as its next to a road) I droped in there once due to T-storms to the west

Real thin RW with a crosswind (good place as no tower and not a bunch of others to contend with)

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