Dead Man Flying: Second, they exclude income as an independent variable when I feel it probably explains the greatest amount of variance of anything else they included. Income is probably important enough to bias race results by its exclusion.
Absolutely! According to the comprehensive studies that factor out all but one parameter (SES or IQ), Socio-Economic Status is almost one third as important as the average intelligence level. That's quite a lot.
Sixpence: But in time we blended in well. But the African Americans, because they looked so different, didn't blend in. They still had separate bathrooms in the 60's? I'de say 90% in the "poor" bracket? It's gonna take some time for them to catch up.
The trends in may areas indicate they are not catching up but that their situation is getting worse - in absolute numbers and relative to other ethnicities.
Gadfly: Going by that census report, white women have had the greatest Increase in out of wedlock births since the 1930s, from 6% to 30%, while blacks have merely doubled the number of out of wedlock births.
70% of the white children are legitimate compared to 94% in the 30% - a drop by 26%.
30% of AA children are legitimate compared to 65% before - a drop by 54% from a much worse start. Their families were getting destroyed twice as fast.
By the way, how are hispanics factored into those statistics? In many government statistics, like crime reports, hispanics are counted as whites as criminals but as non-whites as victims. IS it the same in family statistics?
Gadfly: It is not a race thing, or a money thing, it is a culture thing. And it would appear that in our current U.S. culture, white and black, the stigma is going away.
And some government programs like public housing accelerates the destruction of culture.
Instead of helping poor families with rent money and have one single mother live among many normal families providing example and environment for her and her kids, why not concentrate them all together in one area that become a blight, with no positive example, no jobs nearby, etc...
muckmaw: Could it also be traced all the way back to American Slavery?
The racial relations in US were at their worst in the period of 1890-1920 - president Wilson actually re-segregated White House Staff!
Still, by many criteria the blacks were improving since the end of slavery and by practically all of them since the 1920s.
The decline started in 1960s-70s, 140 years after slavery anded but exactly when the "Great Society" and "War on Poverty" (subcidy of the illegitimacy) began.
Coincidence?
miko
