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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2003, 08:00:15 PM »
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If the crew's mass does not have a significant influence on balance, and it's design doesn't allow it to capsize without worries it's no longer a fun sport to sail it but just hard work sport.


I'm no sailor, but why in the world would a sailboat be designed specifically to allow it to capsize???

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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2003, 08:51:33 PM »
Nuke - CCVI will handle his philisophical differences with Nilson, but from what I know, sailboats are designed to be like floating corks on the sea. If you are in a blue-water boat you should be able to handle being pushed over by the wind and have your weighted keel right you fairly quickly. You might break a mast and rigging, but the boat would be able to float if it was "battened down" before being rolled or capsized. That is what is called being "seaworthy."
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« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2003, 02:17:55 AM »
I got my first sailboat when i was 5 (a laser) and i have sailed several classes of smaller boats.

I do agree that smaller boats are alot of fun to sail and the best (only) way to learn the art of sailing. On the other hand, it is just as big a challenge to sail a bigger boat, and it has many more practical uses.

When sailing regattas on a 38 footer you have more crew onboard and with more crew it also has a significant influence on the handeling and balance of the boat + it is imo alot of fun to make an entire crew work together as one.

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« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2003, 08:44:24 AM »
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Sure is a dream my gf and I have had since we met 10 years ago. We have both grown up with sailing and we have used her parents boat alot. We now decided to get our own.  :)

http://www.x-yachts.com/frontend/pages/SEEEMS_674.asp


Awsome yacht there Nilsen, I envy you. Love to sail myself but it has been ages (literaly) since I have had the pleasure.

Gunther, I looked at these, the Rhodes 22 a long time ago for the same reasons you are :)
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« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2003, 08:56:26 AM »
Thx Mark

Its sertainly the largest investment I have ever made, and will prolly not be matched in the future either. I was dreaming of going up one more size to the 412 but I did not wanna get a bigger loan than we could manage (had to borrow 1/4 of the cost as is) and my my gf said STOP :D

We have to save bigtime now and wont live well at all (no partys, skitrips :( or computerstuff) until may when the baby arrives and our economy gets good again but what the h*** you have to make some sacrifices to get what you want :D

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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2003, 09:13:59 AM »
Calling a boat an "investment" is something of an oximoron.

You spent the money Nilsen...you didn't really invest it.  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2003, 09:16:16 AM »
hehe kinda true..

let me rephrase...

Its an investment in quality of life and pure joy :D

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« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2003, 09:17:41 AM »
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hehe kinda true..

let me rephrase...

Its an investment in quality of life and pure joy :D


Better....much better.  :)
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