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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2003, 09:49:17 AM »
Uh, Curval, you do know what powerplants use lakes for, right?

Just in case, I will tell you-they use them to put warm water in from the turbines.  The only pollution in them is the warm water, which fish prefer.

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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2003, 10:05:16 AM »
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Uh, Curval, you do know what powerplants use lakes for, right?

Just in case, I will tell you-they use them to put warm water in from the turbines.  The only pollution in them is the warm water, which fish prefer.


You just keep telling yourself that while you munchy wunchy on those mutant fish.:p
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2003, 10:06:31 AM »
lol, moron.

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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2003, 10:11:52 AM »
actually Curval,  power plant lakes are probably a lot safer to eat from than normal Texas lakes.  Most Texas lakes have murcury warnings an all bass,  not so in power plant lakes.  The fish are 10 times more healthy in Decker than any other lake I've fished in.  You can tell just by looking at  them.  No sores,  good color etc...

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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2003, 10:17:57 AM »
Power Plant Pollution

More

I could find a ton more like this.

I suppose you will say that the lakes they use for producing the electricity are pollution free and it is the "other" lakes that they are polluting...I mean they wouldn't do anything to impact fishermen..surely.:rolleyes:

I could probably dig up some dirt on the specific lake in question.

Keep eating dude...then call me a moron in a few years when your third arm starts growing.
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« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2003, 10:32:25 AM »
I don't know about the quality of the water in 'other Texas lakes', but I wouldn't eat fish from the 'cooling pond'.  

when a boiler is shut down it is drained. the drains run to the pond.  this run-off includes all the chemicals added to the water, plus 'fly-ash' that is picked up as the water runs off (it's everywhere in a coal plant, containing high consentrations of arsnic, lead, and many other nasties).  add this to the run-off from rain that falls on the mountain of coal stored next to the plant seeping into the lake and you get quite a chemical cocktail.

the warmer water gives the fish plenty to eat and you can get some great fishing in, but I wouldn't eat them.

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2003, 10:57:05 AM »
This is an oil/nat gas fired plant, and they do not drain the boilers into the lake(anywhere).  I did some searches, but so far can't find any cites on pollution at Walter E. Long Lake, it's real name, or for the Decker Creek powerplant.

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« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2003, 11:08:22 AM »
This is one of the top 5 bass lakes in the nation (one of the top 2 in the state IMO).  We have all sorts of local anglers that keep track of the condition of the water on a daily basis.  They go as far as to check O2 levels at diferent depths throughout the lake.  If they are low they call the TPWL department right away.  I've never heard anything about polution at this lake,  God I hope it stays like it is now!

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2003, 11:16:48 AM »
Coolin Lakes are the BEST!!!!  ....for frog legs... ya get a half dozen legs per frog!


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« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2003, 11:19:09 AM »
This is true enough Curval. Used to live in Morro Bay Ca. There is a natural gas power plant there that dumps cooling water into the ocean.

The only pollution was heat. (Heat is a form of pollution as it changes the ecosystem in the area affected) This drew different species of fish, corals, sponges and mollusks to the area, but didn't eally harm the local fauna. Just moved it.

It also made for a great place to surf without a wet suit.

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2003, 11:59:49 AM »
MT...that contrasts markedly from what Apathy said just above.

I'm no expert..but I can assure you that I wouldn't swim, or eat fish from, some lake built for the purpose of providing water to a power plant.

Nor would I swim in the heated run-off from a "cooling lake".

If that makes me a moron..so be it.

Who tells you guys that there is "no pollution" other than heat anyway?  I think you will find it is the spin doctors hired by the plants who do most of that.

Udie...I'm sure that you are right and that this particular Lake is fine...but you acknowledge that Texas water is so full of mercury there are warnings to not eat the fish or swin there.  I'd be very, very sceptical.
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« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2003, 01:17:05 PM »
Ah, you ain't a moron, just easy to scare.

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« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2003, 02:05:57 PM »
if it's a gas plant and not coal-fired it would be much cleaner.  you'd still get the chemicals they put in to treat the water, but you'd have a lot fewer heavy metal problems and you'd completely avoid the run-off from the coal pile.  

as powerplants go I'd live next to a gas fired if I had to choose one.  (as long as they didn't switch to oil too often,  most plant around here only keep a supply of oil on hand to maintain electric service in the event of problems with the gas line)

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and they do not drain the boilers into the lake(anywhere).


when the boilers are shut down for inspection/repair (anually at the very least, unless safety codes are much more lax in Texas). the boilers are drained.  then after repairs they are hydro-staticly tested (this involves filling them with water and applying pressure, sometimes filling and draining several times before all leaks are found and fixed), then draining them.  then they are filled with water treated with a caustic chemical and 'boiled down' (to remove impurities) then drained.  the original water is chemically treated and the boil-out water is also treated, they are drained right out onto the floor, into the storm drains and out into the cooling pond.  

in a gas plant you'd only have this a couple times a year though so it would be fairly minimal if it's a good sized lake.
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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2003, 02:39:46 PM »
OMG thought you said 25,8 lb fish lol was like why did you let it go you fool!

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« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2003, 02:57:07 PM »
Thanks capt, saved me some postage.
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in a gas plant you'd only have this a couple times a year though so it would be fairly minimal if it's a good sized lake.


and even more minimal if it is the Pacific Ocean.