Man killed by bomb around his neck

[davidpt40]

You need an infusion of compassion dip****. You're sorrowfully lacking.

Or perhaps reading *is* fundamental. It's comprehension that's the real trick.

The bomb was locked to him via a ring around his neck.

It was a simple pipe bomb attached to a timer and a lock.  They should have used some bolt cutters to remove the bomb.  

Btw, I truely believe you are mentally ill DmdMac.

[DmdMac]

Originally posted by davidpt40

Btw, I truely believe you are mentally ill DmdMac.

:D;):mad:

We feel better now. Thank you.

[yowser]

This BBC video should clear up any confusion.  You'll see who said what.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/video/39475000/rm/_39475599_pizza19_bryant_vi.ram


yowser

[capt. apathy]

It was a simple pipe bomb attached to a timer and a lock. They should have used some bolt cutters to remove the bomb.

how did they know it didn't have an anti-tampering trigger?  what if it did and they took your great idea and ran with it?  they cut it off, kill the man and the cop with the bolt cutters.  meanwhile the expert who could have handled it shows up just about the time the peices hit the ground.

they had no idea exactly what they where dealing with.  they had no idea how much time they had.  the evacuated all who they could from the area and waited for someone who would know what he was doing.

unfortunately the odds didn't play out and the man died,  the cops didn't kill him though, who ever put that damn thing around his neck did.

hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to sit safely behind your screen after the facts have come to light and say what should have happened.

the people who where there made the best decision they could with the info at hand, and live with the consiquences.  

to my way of thinking, if you look at the info they had to work with, it's my unexpert opinion that they made the absolute best decision possable in the situation.

[Fishu]

Thats just sick..

Hopefully they catch the whoever did this, since he needs to be fed with some broken glass instead of a pizza.

[davidpt40]

how did they know it didn't have an anti-tampering trigger? what if it did and they took your great idea and ran with it? they cut it off, kill the man and the cop with the bolt cutters. meanwhile the expert who could have handled it shows up just about the time the peices hit the ground.

to my way of thinking, if you look at the info they had to work with, it's my unexpert opinion that they made the absolute best decision possable in the situation.

What in the world?  You do realize the cops let the guy sit there handcuffed and get his head blown off by a pipe bomb right? The absolute best decision would have been to get some bolt cutters and save the guy's life.  Those cops failed.  It was their job to protect the citizens in their district.

[Chaos68]

Originally posted by davidpt40
What in the world?  You do realize the cops let the guy sit there handcuffed and get his head blown off by a pipe bomb right? The absolute best decision would have been to get some bolt cutters and save the guy's life.  Those cops failed.  It was their job to protect the citizens in their district.

so your saying to put our cops in harms way to save what might be trap?  I dont understand why it took 40 minutes for the bomb squad but i sure as toejam wouldnt walk up to a guy with a bomb and say "here let me cut that thing off you".

The cops dont know if its riged to go off when tampered with? The cops didnt know if the guy was with the robers, why die trying to save a thief, Thats what the bomb squad is for.

[Chaos68]

I'm just amazed he robed the bank. Usually when you rob a bank the police are there in a heart beat.  

Sad if he really is just a pizza guy. but it sounds fishy, i cant wait to hear more about this.

[DmdMac]

Originally posted by davidpt40

Btw, I truely believe you are mentally ill DmdMac.

I'll bite, why do you say that? Only because I crititcize you for your callous remark about the dead man's worth?  You are low because of it, so I may be mentally ill(though I think not), but you should put yourself in that man's place, than perhaps you wouldn't have made an utter bellybutton of yourself.

I refer you back to your original statement:

]Originally posted by davidpt40

Oh well, he was too old to be a pizza delivery man anyways.

And what, pray tell, is your worth? What do you contribute?  What do you do for a living?

[gofaster]

Police have released an edited version of the note the pizza delivery man had:

Bizarre Bank Robbery Case Note Released
FBI Releases Handwritten Note Instructing Pa. Man to Rob Bank As Bomb Hung Around His Neck

The Associated Press

 

ERIE, Pa. Feb. 10 — The FBI released sections of a nine-page handwritten note found in a car belonging to an Erie pizza deliveryman killed six months ago when a bomb locked around his neck exploded after he robbed a bank.
Investigators released the note in hopes someone recognizes the author from the penmanship or the writer's penchant for obsessiveness.


 
 

The note containing instructions to rob the bank and directions to four separate locations was found with Brian Wells when he died Aug. 28 in a parking lot just south of Erie.

Before the bomb exploded, Wells told authorities that he had been forced to rob the bank by someone who locked the collar bomb around his neck. Police surrounded Wells after he robbed a PNC Bank branch in Summit Township and were waiting for a bomb squad to arrive when the device detonated.

In releasing photographs of the note Tuesday, FBI Special Agent Bob Rudge described the author as having an "obsessive quality" in telling the reader what to say, how to behave and what to feel.

The writer probably conceived the plan over some time perhaps years and revenge, not money, may have been the primary motive, Rudge said. He refused to elaborate whether Wells may have been the target of revenge, or another person.

"The overall bank robbery plan as outlined in the letter appear to be unrealistic. Nonetheless, because of the time and effort he invested in this whole scheme constructing the collar bomb and the shotgun and preparing the instruction letter it is not likely he sat at home waiting to learn how events unfolded," Rudge said, suggesting the suspect was in a position to watch what happened.

Despite use of the word "he," Rudge hasn't said the suspect is a male.

"Brian Wells could have known this person but misjudged the dangerousness of the situation," Rudge said.

The note is the first disclosure of evidence in four months, suggesting earlier appeals have yielded little to solve the case.

Investigators in September released photographs of a triple-banded collar with four keyholes and a combination lock on its heavy homemade clasp and a unique cane-shaped firearm found in Wells' car. FBI have said the weapon fired shotgun shells and appeared to be homemade.

FBI agents believe Wells didn't act alone and are leaning toward the theory that Wells was a victim, as he told police. But they haven't entirely ruled out the possibility that he was a willing participant.

You can read the edited version of the notes here and here.

They've blacked out so much of the text that its hard to figure out exactly what the victim was supposed to do.  Maybe it will lead to something.

[Mickey1992]

Seems like destinctive hand writing, and there is even a drawing.  Maybe they will catch the bastard.

[Nod]

Well, if they do find him i think they should ignore the cruel and unusual punishment amendment.

[BGBMAW]

so does this mean he did it alone?

 I saw the after pictures of the collar..that thing is nasty..

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Ozark
If it was that easy he would have taken it off himself before he got to the bank or requested help when he was in the bank.

We don’t know how it was attached, we don’t even know if his story is true (a victim) or false (bank robber who’s plan went bad).

Time might tell.

Time did tell. He was in on the plot himself.

[Maverick]

It seems to me the plot worked rather well. The device functioned and only a participant in the crime was hurt. Assuming of course that the information newly released is correct.