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Offline Sox62

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2003, 09:43:34 AM »
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so what exactly was made up?


 Here you go Hortlund.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2003, 04:07:45 PM »
My average is about 129.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2003, 04:27:10 PM »
It was good as long as he was on track. But later into the movie he sidetracked himself into anti-kmart and anti-hanson stuff and lost very good idea he was pursuing.
He asked why there was so much gun violence in US compared to say Swissland where gun ownership is even higher then US and so forth. He asked about national paranoia of being victimized and lack of support for such. It was good stuff, till he went into activism bit against KMart and chased Hanson down. Remainder was crap.

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2003, 05:16:29 PM »
Moore should do a documentary on the music business...Compare how what we used to get(album with readable liner notes,real musicians and recording flubs) to what we now are forced to swallow(CD's that have no packaging,jewel cases that break upon opening,cut and paste production that gives you the exact sampled chorus that you heard the first time around..etc)

Add to that hand held filming of two bands..One that plays bars,makes great music and gets turned down by every record exec they meet...And contrast this to footage of a current BoyBrat/Idol/Rap music wannabe band.

It would be hilarious!
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2003, 09:11:31 AM »
Michael Moore's America hating is tiresome.
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2003, 10:06:01 AM »
Funny how many of you are up in arms about the documentary when you have never seen it.

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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2003, 10:52:03 AM »
Some of you still take B4C as some sort of factual documentary?  Hehe, ok.  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2003, 01:54:54 PM »
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Funny how many of you are up in arms about the documentary when you have never seen it.


"up in arms", hehe, good one...
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2003, 04:32:54 PM »
I saw it this weekend, and it had its moments.  Thanks to the previous poster above who set out a link on some inaccuracies, inconsistencies, etc. in the movie since I found the counterarguments useful as well.

That said, I don't think that Moore's substantial artistic licence and editorializing detracts from what I thought was the main theme of the movie, that being that Americans seem to live in a much more violent society than other Western style democracies, and that they kill each other at a higher rate.

Did it deserve an Oscar?  Probably not.  Is it one person's "opinion piece"? Probably.  I don't think he should be criticised for expression his opinion, but he can certaintly be criticised for using his position and "celebrity" as some form of justification of his point of view.  Then again, a lot of people are guilty of that.