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Offline Slash27

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« on: September 08, 2003, 01:26:33 PM »
I was watching Mail Call last night with Lee Ermey. They did a segment on armored scout cars in WW2 and covered the M3. The M3 they had was a 4 wheeled vehicle that carried 6 troops and was armed with a M2 .50 and a M1917 .30 cal. (this was one of many armorments) He said the version was a M3A1. Being that our M3 is a half track, I was wonderering if you guys know what the relationship between the M3's  is? Is our M3 an improvement or a whole other beast? They didnt cover any other version of the M3 and went straight to the M8 as the next U.S. scout car.



*Wrong forum I know, but just wanted to run it by you guys.

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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2003, 02:04:21 PM »


 Design/Production

First created by the White Motor Company in 1938. It was based on a commercial truck chassis. Was designed for high speed scouting.

Description

MGs were on skate rail around interior body and could be removed and placed on tripod mounts.

Had a roller mounted in front of the bumper to help it not bog down in soft ground. Armored shutters protected the radiator and could be opened and closed by the passenger as there was a lever by their right foot.

The windshield is made of shatter proof glass and an armor plate of 0.5" could be swung down into place and had slots for vision.

The fenders in the front were made from heavy sheet metal. The hood could be opened on each side. The battery was on the right side and had an armored cover.

On the outsider was placed an ax, a shovel, and a pick. There was storage over each rear fender that carried ammunition, tools, and spare parts. Doors had hinged upper halves that folded down with vision slots that had covers. The rear was a solid armor plate with no door.

A standard military taillight was installed on the left and on the right were blackout lights. There were 6 bucket seats behind the driver. There was a SCR506, 508, or 510 radio set with the antenna base in the center of the rear section. Fuel was under driver's seat.

M3A1E1: Buda diesel engine.

M3A1E2: Armored roof.

M3A1E3: Pedestal mount for 37 mm

M3A1 Command Car: Built in 1943 with armored screen, .50 cal MG and more armor on the sides.

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 From Hear:

 http://www.wwiivehicles.com/html/usa/m3a1_scoutcar.html


 This Scout car is often refere to as the "White" scout car, they were not as common as the M3 half track's the later being more widely adopted and used for troop transport and for a number of other duties, the halftracks were far more mobile in rough terain than the White scout car was, their is a beautifuly preserved White Scout car at the Oregon Military Museum btw. The M8 and the M20 were 6 whealed afair's and were much more mobile compared to the 4 whealed White and saw more service in the Scout role paticularly in the later war years in that role.
  The prototype T14 Halftrack was created by converting a White Scout car , and thus became the M3 this is why they have similar superstructure's.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2003, 02:12:36 PM »
Figured you'd know:)   Found what I was looking for,nice site. Thanks Brady.

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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2003, 02:18:54 PM »
NP:), that is a cool sight, makes me wish I still played ASL at times:)

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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2003, 02:20:37 PM »
Is there a similar site for aircraft?

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2003, 02:57:10 PM »
Thier are lots of sights for all this stuff, in fact their are so many, all I generaly do is type in the "whaterver" name and somthing comes up, but I have some rgood refrance book's so I generaly rely on them myself since their typicaly more reliable.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2003, 03:02:08 PM »
What are the best books you have?  I have a few but they dont go as far into detail on development and varients as I'd like.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2003, 04:22:56 PM »
Ahh I dont know whear to start, I have a lot of book's, like hundereds...Their are several decent general refrences out their, but as you say they dont go into a lot of specific detail at time's, if were talking just about planes, my favorate US general refrence is the Book America's 100,000 by Dean, this book by Schiffer is one of the best of it's kind I have ever sean, Schiffer also is a bublisher of some of the best books on WW2 History, their cover all types of subject mater, a good idea if your interested is to visst their websight and have them send  you a catalog, they also publish some realy good books on Japanese planes In a series by Buschel (the auther) although their are a few erors in some of his books they are still a prety decent series.
  Ospery and Squaderon Signal, also publish a number of series books that can provide some very usefull infermation and general history's and provide more depth on the specific plane types than a lot of the larger general work's.
  Ali D'Italia is a great source for specific Itlaian plane history's their works are very informative.
 The Japanese Books Maru Mechanic series and others of simmilar types are also very informative, although they are in Japanese, with some English translation.
 The Naval Institute Press also publishes some realy great books in series form that cover some realy interesting subject's and Ship's and Air unit's.
    I sugest either surfing the web for books specifc  to plane/GV/Ship's your interested in or going to a book store and finding what your interested in.

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2003, 04:41:07 PM »
Brady's a geek

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2003, 04:43:15 PM »
Some Link's:

 http://www.schifferbooks.com/

 
http://www.ospreybooks.org/


http://www.usni.org/

http://pacmodelscatalog.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PCM&Category_Code=books


 The Naval Institute Press publishes a couple periodicals as well, Proceding's a very good magizine that cover's all things modern in the US Navy it is extreamly informative and gives insight into the going's on their like no other publication I have come across, The Naval History Magizine is likewise a great read covering all maner of thing's, I have had subscriptions to both on and off for over a decade.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2003, 07:19:40 PM »
Thanks again for the info and links. I have quite a few of the Osprey and Squadron Signal books myself.

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2003, 07:35:27 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2003, 01:13:00 AM »
If you look a litter further you'll find the right one:


M3 Half Track Personnel Carrier: Standardized in 1940.

"3: 10 passengers and 3 crew. Had rear access door and the body was lengthened. Pedestal mount M25 in rear for .30 cal. Had winch or unditching roller."