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Offline Gadfly

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2003, 04:34:03 PM »
Almost as bad as your local slip and fall.

Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2003, 04:38:20 PM »
What do you mean we will lose?

Offline Dnil

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« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2003, 04:38:38 PM »
just when some of the airlines started hiring back pilots.  Weeeeee, its all about to hit the fan.


I should have moved to Montana long ago.

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« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2003, 04:39:52 PM »
Are all the Finns on this board tools?

Offline Udie

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Re: Udie
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2003, 04:45:23 PM »
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What do you mean we will lose?




 I mean we won't let ourselves win....

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2003, 04:46:00 PM »
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I mean we won't let ourselves win....



I don't think it's possible to win....
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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2003, 05:00:19 PM »
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I don't think it's possible to win....



well I've always been scared of that.  I did think at the begining though that maybe just maybe we could get along enough to do what needs to be done.  I think it's clear that's not going to happen.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2003, 05:01:46 PM »
You do not think we are going to win the war on terror?

Or we are not going to win the war with the islamic culture?

Sandman, define what we are not going to win?

I am kinda lost here....

Offline Mark Luper

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2003, 05:06:37 PM »
I wonder how much these people are being pushed into this by lawyers. Though I don't beleive all lawyers are bad people, I beleive a lot of lawyers are the reason we have such a litigious scociety, one not willing to take responsibility for what happens to them or what they do.

I think the whole situation stinks myself. I might feel differently if I was a close relative to one of the victims, it would be harder to look at objectively, and I wonder if we are ever going to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Is this kind of litigiousness going to continue to grow? It has to stop sometime...
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2003, 05:09:33 PM »
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You do not think we are going to win the war on terror?





exactly....

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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2003, 05:12:57 PM »
99% of the lawsuits in the United States initiated by scum like this would never happen if the US civil judicial system didn't allow litigators to take a percentage of the judgement.

In Canada, lawyers are generally not permitted to take a contingency fee (i.e., you only get paid if you win, and then you get a percentage of the damages).  The result is that (a) plaintiffs don't start lawsuits that don't have a reasonable chance of success and (b) the lawyers don't have dollar signs in their eyes.  Our civil judgements are also capped to a large extent (i.e., no $1 billion jury awards).

What always amuses me about lawsuits like this is that people have no concept of the cost that it imposes on the rest of society.  Assume that the lawsuit is successful against Boeing...

1.  Boeing's insurance would likely cover a good portion of the judgement.  Result - Boeing's insurance premiums go up, the cost of an aircraft goes up, the cost to the airline of buying the aircraft goes up, the cost of a ticket goes up.  And, by the way, the cost of insurance to everyone else who has insurance with the same insurance company goes up.

2. If Boeing's insurance doesn't cover the claim, the result is anywhere from an increased cost to the purchaser of an aircraft (see #1 above) to Boeing needing to cut costs.  Result - Workers at Boeing may be layed off, layed off workers don't contribute to society or pay taxes, the rest of the working population needs to take up the slack, etc.

I say just add the amount of the lawsuit to Dubya's $87 billion as an additional cost of the war on terror...but the lawyers don't get a penny.

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« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2003, 05:20:48 PM »
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You do not think we are going to win the war on terror?


Exactly... we can't win if there is no end.
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2003, 05:25:42 PM »
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Exactly... we can't win if there is no end.


Speak to the Israelis.  Ask them if they've won their war on terror.

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« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2003, 05:38:19 PM »
Hmmm
You do not think hunting them down and making the cost of being a terrorist very high will work?

I understand with situations like palistine, terrorism will never go away, but we can not force these people to work withen the system by making them pay a higher and higher price for their actions? Hmm this will only work for the ones who want to live....


As for this lawsuite  Scum, they are already getting tons of money from the gov, and now they are going to sure over something lame............ sometimes I just can't believe how lame people are.

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« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2003, 05:39:30 PM »
People need to realize that we "won" WW2 when we supplied Europe with food and money (Marshall Plan). We "won" the cold war by building and forcing the other guy to build and outspending them and by allowing the Beatle's White Album to be smuggled into Russia.

The war on terror cannot be won with bullets. Those are just the preliminary means to get to the end. We need to win the hearts and minds of the potential enemy.