More idiocy out of Florida

[cobia38]

Originally posted by DrDea
Funny.Thats not what I heard from a "Teacher" in Fla.

 
  If you lived here maybe you would know the truth

[drone]

Drdea Fl. is already a part of Cuba --floating it any closer wont make any difference.......


BTW scooter if you dont speak spanish as a teacher in Orlando, where I lived for 5 years,  you will find it hard to get a job. In some places impossible because most of the "students" in the area speak only spicaness...

[Scootter]

Originally posted by drone
Drdea Fl. is already a part of Cuba --floating it any closer wont make any difference.......


BTW scooter if you dont speak spanish as a teacher in Orlando, where I lived for 5 years,  you will find it hard to get a job. In some places impossible because most of the "students" in the area speak only spicaness...

Been to Texas or Cal lately, pardon me but you prejudice is showing. Having been in the education system and my first wife was and educator has allowed me to socialize in a group that has several teachers and professors. The statement that it is a requirement for a teacher’s license to speak Spanish is an outright lie and shows a profound lack of education itself. As an American your statement, I find offending, we have many from our state serving (Is I once did) and dying for this country in the milatary  and many come from a Spanish background.

 I am sorry you had a problem finding a job when you lived in Orlando as a teacher, and it is my hope you found a place where your intolerance toward others to be an asset. If you are still seeking work may I recommend perhaps employment in the prison system as you seem well suited and your "influence" would not do so much harm" I am glad you will not be "educating" any of our students.

By the way what tribe of Indian are you from? I assume your people have been here forever and your ancestors didn’t come from another country.

God Bless the "UNITED" States of America

I wish people could see how ignorant they seem when they show racial prejudice.


Regards

[capt. apathy]

The Spanish are responsible for the size of our country when they sold us the landmass east of the Mississippi in a transaction called the Louisiana Purchase

I hope when you say "having been in the education system.." you where talking about as a student and not as a teacher, at least not a history teacher.

we bought the Louisiana territory from France

[Scootter]

Originally posted by capt. apathy
I hope when you say "having been in the education system.." you where talking about as a student and not as a teacher, at least not a history teacher.

we bought the Louisiana territory from France

You are right sir, I was only on my first cup of coffee


The French needed the money to fund their war with the British, funny thing we borrowed the 15 mil for the transaction from... the British.

[ghostdancer]

DrDrea my wife is a high school english teacher in Broward County Florida. It is not a requirement in Broward County or West Palm Beach County to speak fluent Spanish to get a teacher's license. It is also not a mandated from the Florida Government. However, in Dade County (Miami) while it is not a requirement they do prefer it and it gives you a leg up in getting hired over other teachers applying for a position who don't speak spanish.

Actually in the case of Dade County and its starting to be this way in Broward County .. more and more jobs (government and non) are listing it is as a preference for getting hired.

[drone]

sorry you took that as a "racist" comment scooter...wasnt meant as one, so tough, because it is my "opinion" and I have a right as an American to voice it... so if your "offended" you know where you can "put" it.

Im not an educator, I had to deal with the school system because my son was in the "system".

I have a brother who lives in Houston TX....... Yes I have been there......... I have also lived in Saudi Arabia and Tehran Iran....3 years in Saudi--2 years in Iran. While I lived there I made the effort to at least learn enough of the language to get around..

I dont like living in MY country where "only" 13.something% of the population is spanish speaking but a VAST amount of my "tax" money (and yes I'm a payer unlike around 8% of said pop) goes to government paper work that is in spanish.

Typical smucks throw around the "prejudice" word along with the "rascist" word anytime they feel they need to justify some lame reasoning.

 Thats like saying I should not tell the guy next door  to keep his dog out of my yard because he is crapping in it. I dont own a dog but by you reckoning it would be prejudice to tell him this.

I dont have anything against anyone coming to this country to live and work.... I'm in construction so a majority of the people I work with are latinos. I am not going to learn spanish so it is up to them to learn to speak the language of this country.

 By the laws of the federal government anyone in construction have to know "english", so by those laws anyone NOT speaking english should not be hired.

I find that most latinos are hard working and good people and dont mind living next to them. I want anyone to come to this country and have all the benefits that my forefathers and I  have worked for, by contributing to all the good and bad that this country is.

[Gunthr]

Ghostdancer is absolutely correct regarding language requirements for teachers in South Florida. ( to your wife Gd, for doing a difficult job)

The population is obviously far from being homogenious in South Florida, but if you want a semi-tropical environs and a warm ocean gateway to the Carribean, you have to give up the Main St. USA concept. Brown people are all over the place down here, and I don't mind.

Maybe I should'nt say this, but of the Cubans, Brazilians and other South Americans, the Haitians, Jamaicans and the other reggae curtain countries, the Asians, the Europeans, the New Yorkers and people from all over the USA, and all the rest, the only ones that get on my nerves regularly are the New Yorkers.

[capt. apathy]

By the laws of the federal government anyone in construction have to know "english", so by those laws anyone NOT speaking english should not be hired.

since when?  I've never heard of this law.  
I've had a few jobs where 3 of us where working in an area(2 working 1 fire-watch), and you hear the firewatch yelling in spanish at the rusian who's blowing his fire down on the guy who speaks english (me).

the upside is that when I worked the shipyards, I could say "get your own fluff'n tools" in about 4 or 5 languages

[DrDea]

My comment had NOTHING to do with prejudice so sit your bellybutton down Johnny Cochran.I have nothing against any race.I hate every human on the planet equaly.Im NOT going to take the time to break them into groups.My point is that this country bends over backwards for people coming to it and get dissrespected.Look at the quicky mart.Habu runs it tax free for 5 years and then turns it over to his brother shamu for 5 more years tax free living. The spanish comment was from a friend that said you,not as a requirement,had to know spanish to teach in Fla.Apparently thats a big plus but its NOT a racist comment.

[drone]

You better check the laws then bud --it was written while the hoover dam was being built, because  to many non-english speaking workers were getting killed. The law is still in force today, just not enforced.

Like I said when I tell someone to get their own tools they better understand english or they will get another job----I dont have time when I'm running a job or machine to teach it either...

I have a friend who is a RN in Orlando. She did home health care for years down there. The reason she quit was because of the attitude a lot of people have down there.
The final straw was from a clients daughter. My friend had gone to see one of her  elderly patients, this patient didnt not speak ANY english, even though she has lived in this country for 18 years. This clients daughter had to come to the clients house to translate for her mother. Apparently one day it was to much of an problem and she couldnt come. My friend had to leave without being able to understand what her patient was telling her. My friend saw anywhere 4 to 10 patients a day and couldnt wait for someone else to come and translate. The next time she went, the clients daughter got in my friends face and screamed at her that she didnt have time to come help her mother and why didnt my friend learn spanish. The daughter said it was my friends fault for not learning the language. What was really bad about it was that my friend had started taking spanish classes 2 weeks before this happened.  The next day she went to work and told them that she was not going on anymore HHC jobs and she would break in another RN... She gave them 2 weeks to find someone to take her place. She left without anyone taking her place because no one wanted the job.

Now because of the stupidity of one person how many were actually hurt? Several I am sure.


Very few of the latino community support the people learning to speak english. The main reason is the few that do can control the many that dont. I see it all the time, from the people that sell illegal SS cards to the ones that cash pay checks for a nice percentage.

These people are being taken advantage of more by their own ethnic groups than by any American and its stupid people that help them by saying someone shouldn't learn the english language..

My people are hired and payed a competitive wage, but they must be able to understand enough english to get  by. You might point a finger at me and say I'm prejudice because of the language restriction but rest assured, I am not contibuting to the problem, stupid people who say that about me are.

 When I go home at night I dont want the guilt of having someone get killed on my job because they didnt understand someone telling them to watch out or get out of the way. There are enough bodys buried under multi-million dollar projects without adding more from stupidity alone...........

[Gadfly]

What do you do Drone?

[drone]

I work for a construction contractor.  We do mainly underground utilitys and some grade work. I do everything from plan work to operating heavy equipment.

[Gadfly]

While I agree with you in theory, in day to day Fact, there would not be a lot of construction done around here if everyone had to speak english.  Quite the opposite is true; if you want to have a supervisory role in the construction industry in Texas, you must know spanish.

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by Bodhi
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/South/09/12/cnna.flag.fight/index.html

This is truly sad that our courts are wasting money on this.

It is an important issue.  

What rights did he sign away when he moved there?  What rights can Wal-mart make you sign away if you want to work there?  What rights can an HMO have you give up in a contract?  

You may disagree with the Judge, but his is actually a 'conservative' position on the issue.  Maybe you need to join the ACLU