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Offline Tilt

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« on: September 23, 2003, 05:33:00 AM »
The return of an old favourite........

AC that would expand the game yet require  modification to FM and Object profile rather than all new stuff.

Yak 7
Yak 9D
Yak 3

La5f

LI2  (?) Russian gooney


Hurricane IIa (VVS) (2 x B20 + 2 x 12mm Shvak)
Sea Hurricane IIC

Mosquito MkV
Mosquito Mk XVIII

Bf 109 G6 (MW)
Bf 109 K-4

Fw 190 A4

Ju 87- G1

Me 262A-2a (bomber)

Ju88 A-13 (ground attack non formation)

Spit LF Mk Vb (clipped wing)
Spit LF Mk IX (clipped wing)
Spit LF Mk XIV (clipped wing)

P 47M

P 51C

Night fighter variants (airborne radar)

P 38M
Ju88 C-6
Me110 G-4
Mosquito NF Mk II / NF MkXII


any others?

ps edited a couple of errors pointed out by batz
« Last Edit: September 23, 2003, 10:01:47 AM by Tilt »
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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2003, 08:48:51 AM »
No g2 mw....

109g6as for high alt bomber stuff

109g14  for main play (mw50 better at medium/lo alt perfect for the ost front scenarios)

Our g10 is pretty close to the k4 so i dont think we need it immediatly but I agree it should be easy enough.

I would like to see a 109e7 for ost and med fronts.

ju87-b2 but not necessary immediatly

no p47m but p47n

p47b and/or c

p38f/g/h and j

we have a 190a5

we need a 190a2 and a 190a3/4 and a 190a6 and personally I like to see an a9.

p51a/a36

p40n

f4f-3

f6f-3

f4u-1a (i believe our f4u-1 has the performance of the 1a but the 1 airframe, so either adjust the fm and build a new f4u-1 or vice versa)

a6m3 Model 22 (clipped wings) and Model 32

I am not sure about these designations but here we go

Ki - 61-Ib (Model 1B) (4 x 12.7mm)
Ki - 61-I-KAIc (ho-5 cannon above cowl)

N1K1-J (2 x 20 mm type 99 model 2 cannon and 2 x 7.7 mm type 97 machine gun). There were 1000 or so n1k1s compared to 400 or n1k2s.

We could use various bomber variants.

I will let the raf expert tell us what we need. I know a better version of the spit 9 would be good. Maybe a 12 gun hurri etc...

Most of these (lw and usaaf) stuff to me would be a priority especially if ht is still gonna go with an 8th airforce setup for the AH2:ToD.

I suspect it will be our early g6 verses all late war us stuff. In this case the 109g6as and 190a6 plus the earlier versions of the US stuff would be great.

For pac stuff we just dont need variants we need new planes. Same with Ost front.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003, 03:52:27 PM »
Why would we want more Spits?  It would seem (looking at the numbers) that the community is more than content with what we have.  (109 too for that matter).

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2003, 04:34:34 PM »
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Why would we want more Spits?  It would seem (looking at the numbers) that the community is more than content with what we have.  (109 too for that matter).

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Because its easy to do.........actually a clipped wing MkXIV would give the La7 a run for its money.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2003, 05:02:52 PM »
The more variants you have over a wider time frame allow for better gameplay and the ability to perk the real best of the breeds.

I am not sure how "easy" any of these would be. Almost all would need some redsign of the current models. When I suggested the n1k1 i forgot it was a mid wing plane so it would require a new model.

Several others are the same way.

The raf guys get stuck with an early spit 9.  The lw need sa 109 to fill the gap bewtween the early g6 and g10. A g6as would be perfect for an 8th airforce setup and the g14 would be great for the ost front.

Same with the 190s. A 190a2 would get used in events and in the ct at an earlier period then the a5.

The a3/4 would do the same.

Same with the p38. Theres a real need for earlier variants and its unfair to p38 fans when they arent able to have their fav ride included in the ct and events. The jugs are all 44 models I believe and its "unfair" to force an early g6 vrs late jug.

I doudt much would change in the main except maybe if a few late war birds are perked, Folks will still fly the same planes. But in events, the ct, scenarios and in the new mission theater they would have a real impact.


Theres many many new planes we need as well.

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2003, 05:13:02 PM »
Nice List, what I we realy nead in the CT is a:

 Huricane IIB (all 303's) (Burma)

 Ki 61 Ib ( with Mg 151's) ( New Gunie)

 A6M3 (Type 99 MK II's) ( Slot,New Gunie)

 B26( the early model) ( New Gunie)

 B17E  (SWPA)

 P38F (SWPA, Europe, Med)

 Tabby( Japanese production C47, better than the Russian one)

 P51A (CBI,Med)

 Add Tilts Russian Varients, and German ones ( Which we desperatly nead)

  And now were looking at some realy cool set up's....:)
« Last Edit: September 24, 2003, 05:15:05 PM by brady »

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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2003, 08:32:52 PM »
How about the:

B-25
A-26

Do-17
He-111

Pe-2
Migg 3

Betty
N1k1

Beaufighter
Hudson
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2003, 08:47:41 PM »
Tilt,

A few comments.  What is a Mosquito Mk V?  I think the L2D2 "Tabby" would make a better addition than the Li2.  They're both C-47s, but the L2D2 is Axis.

My Mossie choices would be from among these (bold means prefered):

Mosquito NF.Mk II
Mosquito B.Mk IV
Mosquito B.Mk XVI
Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII

Mosquito NF.Mk XIX
Mosquito NF.Mk XXX
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2003, 09:05:35 PM »
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Originally posted by Bodhi
How about the:

B-25
A-26

Do-17
He-111

Pe-2
Migg 3

Betty
N1k1

Beaufighter
Hudson


Bohdi , this is not threrad about new planes
Only "how to easy rework curent we have"

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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2003, 09:20:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Tilt
The return of an old favourite........

AC that would expand the game yet require  modification to FM and Object profile rather than all new stuff.

Yak 7
Yak 9D
Yak 3



looking similar but 3 diferent planes, somtimes looking much diferent even between versions (P, D, U,T)


more like yak 1 - yak 7
yak 1b(m) - yak3



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Originally posted by Tilt

LI2  (?) Russian gooney


just diferent skin
Tabby is quite diferent plane, but form C47 family

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Originally posted by Tilt

P 51C


its same like Mustang MkIII? Malcolm Hood canopy? or quad cannon?;)

after taking som knowlage i doubt now it will be easy to do.
All have diferent details and whole FM table should be build from begining.

Sure we need many sub verions and sub variants