Author Topic: What Do Iraqi's think of our invasion? (Read 1670 times)

Rude · « **Reply #60 on:** September 29, 2003, 04:54:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
We were supposed to go there, get saddam, 6 months, get out. Not conquer and run a country. But I guess i'm dense.

Bush never said that....he stated the opposite many times....long and protracted ring a bell?

Udie · « **Reply #61 on:** September 29, 2003, 04:54:27 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
btw negative= antibush/war positive=supportive bush/war

MSNBC -
1. 8-hour battle follows new bombings (soldier killed - pretty negative)
2. Lawmakers eye Iraq costs, intel - Rice, Powell reject claims
of vague WMD intelligence (negative)
3. Iraq, 9/11 still linked by Cheney Meeting between Atta, Iraqi agent has been widely discredited (really negative)
4. Dude, where’s my coalition? - Op-ed page (negative)
5. The rat of Baghdad Tales of media malfeasance and bribery in Iraq (actually pro Bush - dumps on Saddam pretty hard and on the media in Bahgdad pre war positive)

Fox
1. U.S. Troops Come Under Attack in Iraq (kinda negative)
2. U.S. Troops Take On Syrian Border (positive)
3. U.S. to Give U.N. Stronger Say in Iraq Elections (positive spin on negative story... )

CNN

1. U.S. soldier dies in Iraq convoy attack ( same story - negative)
2. Homefront's joyful reunion, uneasy goodbye (very positive story, kinda negative headline)

Overall pretty negative slant.

thanks for proving my point?

I sure do wish we could just get the stories without all the spin.....

Rude · « **Reply #62 on:** September 29, 2003, 04:57:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Sixpence
All he had to do was what he said he was going to do. Go in, get saddam, 6 months, get out. He would be a hero and a second term would be a lock. We are going to abandon 26 million people? How do you abandon people who do not want you there? The job was to get saddam, not rebuild iraq.

Again....where was this stated as our objective and by whom?

midnight Target · « **Reply #63 on:** September 29, 2003, 04:59:31 PM »

Why the confusion Udie?

Rude · « **Reply #64 on:** September 29, 2003, 05:02:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Well... technically, you can't really have a war until the other side shows up... nevertheless... I believe Bush declared a victory in Iraq and IIRC, it was while showboating on an aircraft carrier.

What a BS statement....why don't you post what he really said here so the rest of the readers can see how you twist the truth to suit your position....man, you must be trollin or are just confused.

Rude · « **Reply #65 on:** September 29, 2003, 05:04:36 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Our local news carried 2 stories on Iraq yesterday.

1. A joint Iraqi / US operation to arrest suspected Fehdayin. Considered successful, led by Iraqis. Good news.

2. American soldiers teaching American football to Iraqi kids.

(bloodthirsty media?)

Don't even try MT....this positive turn by the media only began a week ago after they were all criticized...shame on you for you junk:rolleyes:

Udie · « **Reply #66 on:** September 29, 2003, 05:05:02 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Why the confusion Udie?

Well I thought you came in here and posted about 2 positive stories and then I said yeah 2 out of thousands daily and then I thought you were going to prove your point and find positive stories then you came back with "pretty negative slant" So it made me think we were on the same side. THAT"S what confused me

[edit] well ok, that and being Udie

midnight Target · « **Reply #67 on:** September 29, 2003, 05:10:59 PM »

We're always on the same side dude! Truth Justice and the American way!

I said I'd post what I found and thats what I did...

This was interesting - same story

CNN - U.S. soldier dies in Iraq convoy attack
Fox - U.S. Troops Come Under Attack in Iraq

So is the death important enough to put in the headline, or is that just sensationalism by CNN? Orrrrr is Fox bending over backward to make anything sound more positive?

I say both.

Udie · « **Reply #68 on:** September 29, 2003, 05:20:59 PM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
We're always on the same side dude! Truth Justice and the American way!

I said I'd post what I found and thats what I did...

This was interesting - same story

CNN - U.S. soldier dies in Iraq convoy attack
Fox - U.S. Troops Come Under Attack in Iraq

So is the death important enough to put in the headline, or is that just sensationalism by CNN? Orrrrr is Fox bending over backward to make anything sound more positive?

I say both.

ok look. We have got to stop agreeing. Where am I supposed to go get all maniacle and crazy if I come here and you start posting stuff that I agree with? HUH? WHY THAT MAKES ME CRAZY AND MANIACLE!!!

sigh... trying to have a good day here. This new news kinda has me depressed today, thanks for helping me find some laughter today....

midnight Target · « **Reply #69 on:** September 29, 2003, 07:05:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Don't even try MT....this positive turn by the media only began a week ago after they were all criticized...shame on you for you junk:rolleyes:

No need to apologize... I know you're sorry.

Sandman · « **Reply #70 on:** September 29, 2003, 07:13:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
What a BS statement....why don't you post what he really said here so the rest of the readers can see how you twist the truth to suit your position....man, you must be trollin or are just confused.

You're right... there can't be a victory without an exit strategy... my bad.

Krusher · « **Reply #71 on:** September 29, 2003, 07:47:34 PM »

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Originally posted by MrLars
It's interesting how some here have decided to look only at the favorable parts of that survey....here's a part of it not posted here:

Countrywide, only 33 percent thought they were better off than they were before the invasion and 47 percent said they were worse off. And 94 percent said that Baghdad was a more dangerous place for them to live.

Using only positive or negative parts of a survey is SOP for those pushing an agenda.

who is worse off..

Bathist
Sadam loyalist
Fedaheyn
Iraqi military commanders.

Who is better off..

pretty much everyone else...

btw ask that question 6 months from now and then call it a spin.

Sixpence · « **Reply #72 on:** September 30, 2003, 01:38:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Rude
Again....where was this stated as our objective and by whom?

So you are saying that he said we would be there several years before the war? Plz post a link and the date of that link.

BTW, if anyone has what he said before the war, plz post. I thought he said we were going in, getting saddam, getting out. I don't remember him saying we were staying there several years to rebuild the place.

bigsky · « **Reply #73 on:** October 01, 2003, 01:26:04 AM »

so far im getting a good laugh out of this post, and so are a couple friends of mine when i told them that i was called a liberal. liberal, please. all the posts ive made were critical of the purpose of a war with iraq. from what ive seen, clearly the evidence is not there. show me the WMDs? wasnt saddam trying to get uranium from africa? no. the guy sent there to investigate that wrote a newspaper artical saying that and somebody outed his wife as a CIA agent. that was clever, put her and all the agents whom she met with at great risk. so far the concrete is starting to harden on my opinion that the war is just something to take our mind of the poor economy. no thats not a liberal opinion. but i am thinking that it was a mistake to cut short my deer hunting trip, scareing the old people, to vote for bush covered in blood. so, i did some looking and found you something liberal for your viewing pleasure....
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html