Author Topic: He got one thing right in bowling for columbine.... (Read 690 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 30, 2003, 08:18:02 AM »

I sleep with a loaded gun on the nightstand. sometimes it's even a 44mag... mostly a 45 tho with tritium three dot night sights. wouldn't do me much good downstairs in the gun safe.

USA today is more of the same and has the same liberal "progressive" slant as 99% of US papers. Local papers are no worse than the big ones just a smaller version. Mostly they tell you what to think. they are the writers opinion with all objectivity thrown out. They don't even pretend to be objective anymore.

They know that blood sells... they know that 1 gun is worth ten drownings for ratings. They don't like guns in any case. the guys and gals in front of the cameras are empty headed manequins.

The interview with Heston was indeed a lie. The man was certainly suffering from the first stages of altzheinmers and the dates that moore used for the rallies were not true.

The whole so called "documentary" was a lie... it also avoided putting the blame where it really lies.... A very rich country with an insatiable appetite for drugs with a 1500 mile long porus border with a third world country. I would say that if you took out drug related homicides with firearms that our rate would be about the same as Canadas. Moore avoided that because he would be blaming himself and all of his hip friends instead of a bunch of old white guys that aren't hip and progressive.

He was right about the news media tho.

He is a dishonest deformed little troll that blames me because nobody likes him.
lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 30, 2003, 08:22:19 AM »

I woulda been impressed if moore woulda got about a dozen people that were maimed by gangbangers bullets and marched over to the local gangleaders headquarters and demanded that they all get rid of all their drugs and promise not to sell anymore drugs.

or even if he had parties where he told all his friends that they were supporting murder and ather crimes every time they jammed a straw up their nose.

The Kmart thing was a cop out. hiding from the real cause because the truth wouldn't sell.
lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #17 on:** September 30, 2003, 12:06:05 PM »

Lazs,

The thing about threads like these, and the one that Hooligan started about the campaign to rescind Moore's Oscar, is that they simply give Moore extra publicity. When people read about a bunch of NRA supporters campaigning to have a movie Oscar rescinded, well that just makes people go "huh?", and want to see the movie for themselves. If everyone would have kept quiet, perhaps folks like me would never have heard of Moore or his movie.

Margaret Thatcher made the same mistake in 1985 by banning Peter Wright's book about MI5 (British internal security service - sort of like the FBI). Because the book was banned, it became a bestseller. People just bought it overseas as I did. But it was a boring book, and would have gone unnoticed but for all the hoopla.

By starting threads like this, you're playing into Moore's warm, live hands.

lazs2 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 30, 2003, 02:27:53 PM »

beetle... I don't care if he gets the publicity or not... I believe that his movie is so bad and stands up to scrutiny so poorly that it proves my point better than I could have myself.

I think that the hypocricy should have been obvious but once pointed out even a blind man could see it.
lazs

beet1e · « **Reply #19 on:** September 30, 2003, 02:41:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
beetle... I don't care if he gets the publicity or not... I believe that his movie is so bad and stands up to scrutiny so poorly that it proves my point better than I could have myself.

What was your point then?

midnight Target · « **Reply #20 on:** September 30, 2003, 03:10:11 PM »

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liberal "progressive" slant as 99% of US papers.

fallacy lazs. During the 2000 election over 58% of the circulation in the US was from papers endorsing Bush, and even a higher percentage of the papers themselves.

lazs2 · « **Reply #21 on:** September 30, 2003, 03:44:02 PM »

beetle... you didn't read far enough.. I said that it shoulda but... once pointed out...

I think some people simply have no clue about the effect drugs and their widespread sale and use have in America or... Have never put guns and drugs together in the same context... that of the homicide problem in America.. some are simply foreighners who see only the shooting statistics.

moore is being extremely dishonest by implying thruout the "movie" that it is paranoid, frieghtened white people shooting other whites and noble blacks that is the reason for the large amounts of gun violence in America.... Nothing could be farther from the truth and he knows it. He is intentionally lieing to push an agenda that is false. I also believe that he is trying to focus attention away from the real problem.... I don't believe he is doing it very skillfully but I believe that other deformed little trolls like himself are allready convinced so he has no problem in pushing his agenda to awards committees.

MT... I don't know if simply endorsing a president in an election would constitute being not progressive... I mean... there weren't a lot of choices. When I read the papers they seem to have a liberal slant on everything.... real hand wringer stuff.
lazs

rpm · « **Reply #22 on:** September 30, 2003, 03:45:18 PM »

I'm not familiar with Local British TV News, do they even have local stations? Anyway here's the format for American Local Evening News:
:00-:02 Big story of the day (local or otherwise)
:02-:05 Local news
:05-:08 Commercials
:08-:10 National/ World News
:10-:12 Commercials
:12-:14 Expose/ Shock Story
:14-:16 Commercials
:16-:20 Weather
:20-:23 Commercials
:23-:27 Sports
:27-:29 Commercials
:29-:29.45 The Feel Good / Warm & Fuzzy Human Interest Story
:29.45-:30 Entire Cast gathers at desk, Smiles and Laughs