Author Topic: A Whine has been recorded... (Read 4105 times)

LePaul · « **Reply #75 on:** October 07, 2003, 11:36:08 AM »

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I see absolutely no need to speculate on your motives.

Why not? He's speculating why people fly what they fly

Maybe those scientists that figured out why cookies crumble and devout some research into this?

< Just yanking your chain, muckie-poo

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beet1e · « **Reply #76 on:** October 07, 2003, 11:45:59 AM »

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None of the dreaded "Big 5" is an incredible, overwhelming killing machine that can't be bested. Everyone one of them has it's weak point or points. In fact, in Mini's Tour 41 stats (latest I found in a quick search), NONE of the "Big 5" is in the top 18 slots for K/D.

That does not surprise me. These are the easymode planes, and as such are often flown by idiots/noobs.

I think Muck has a valid point. Rude & Apache might even agree.

I had an interesting duelling session against Eagler a week or two ago - he in a Spit V, me in a 109F4. A reasonably fair match up, though I gain the impression that the Spits V & IX are more über than in Brand-W. We went at it for several minutes, and never once got troubled by an interloper in a P51/LA7/NIK etc. That's because we were in the CT. Outside of the CT, it's difficult or even impossible to find an historic match up like that. I'd like to try out the Spit-1 or 109E, but there's not much point in the MA - especially for a lone wolfer like me. For folks like myself and Muckmaw, it's frustrating not to be able to find those matches in the MA.

I think it's somewhat fatuous to suggest that a P51 (flown by a competent pilot) can be defeated by a Spit 1 or 109E - unless it's a vulch, or the P51 makes a serious error, or the Spit1/109E has help. If it really was all down to the pilot and not the plane, we might still be using Spitfires to defend our skies against Russian MiGs.

Toad · « **Reply #77 on:** October 07, 2003, 11:54:55 AM »

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That's because we were in the CT. Outside of the CT, it's difficult or even impossible to find an historic match up like that.

Your solution is staring you in the face.

SlapShot · « **Reply #78 on:** October 07, 2003, 12:05:41 PM »

I think it's somewhat fatuous to suggest that a P51 (flown by a competent pilot) can be defeated by a Spit 1 or 109E - unless it's a vulch, or the P51 makes a serious error, or the Spit1/109E has help.

Anytime you are shot down / killed is because you made a serious error. Nothing more serious than death.

rshubert · « **Reply #79 on:** October 07, 2003, 01:35:50 PM »

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Your solution is staring you in the face.

A relative outsider's view of the CT:

Bad planeset selections.
CMs have an agenda.
Not enough people on to make it worthwhile--pobably due to the above.

~~shubie~~

Toad · « **Reply #80 on:** October 07, 2003, 02:14:27 PM »

Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

However, it seems from the post that Beet1e found something desirable, something that he's been looking to find, in the CT. At least, that's what he said before he changes what he said.

Therefore, one would think he'd return to such a place for more of the same.

And thus it is for those who have a burning desire to "see other types of aircraft than the Big 5" and have "different fights".

There are "different fights going on in the CT, Scenarios and Snapshots (not to mention the DA, where they can pick whatever "differences" they so desire) all the time. It would seem if they truly desire to see different planes and not just "the Big 5" that they would avail themselves of the multiple opportunities in AH to do so.

Shane · « **Reply #81 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:06:59 PM »

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(not to mention the DA, where they can pick whatever "differences" they so desire) all the time. It

not to mention that there are 15k bases in the DA. but what i think beetle really means about hi-alt action is his ability to bounce much lower cons who are probably already busy.

icemaw · « **Reply #82 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:27:30 PM »

Gee Muck your making me feel bad for being lazy this week and flying a la7 and niks in furballs. Most of my kills have been in f6s of late but when fuel gets porked I have to switch to something else. So I use a nik with 50% fuel works great in furballs. I like the hurri2 for this also. But I like to land kills and its hard to rtb in a hurri. I used to use the fm2 for furballs but I got lazy and tired of assists with the 50cals. I guess I could start using the yak but its darn clip is so short and I am such a hoser. Hmmm maybe the green zeek that might be fun. White zeek out of the question its guns are a joke. Ki61 no its guns fire too fast otherwise great plane. Hows the yak on fuel when base is porked. Does it have the legs to furball with 25% or 50% fuel?

OK I am on a mission to find a new furballer.

Toad · « **Reply #83 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:48:29 PM »

Guess you've seen him in action too then Shane?

Shane · « **Reply #84 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:51:08 PM »

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Guess you've seen him in action too then Shane?

actually, no... but then i don't need to actually witness the dawn to know the sun will come up.

BigWorm · « **Reply #85 on:** October 07, 2003, 04:34:23 PM »

Do spit pilots ever get tired of seeing so many spits? hmm..maybe that is were la7 sticks come from.

oboe

Your post was eloquent man. I thought it made your case perfectly.

BigWorm

moot · « **Reply #86 on:** October 07, 2003, 04:45:00 PM »

"I don't like to fight LW planes" and "TnB ufo acm are rubbish and put me to sleep" are inversions of the same idea.

Strange you'd get 190 and 109 mixed up, they fight differently.

Shane · « **Reply #87 on:** October 07, 2003, 05:00:02 PM »

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Strange you'd get 190 and 109 mixed up, they can fight differently.

you'd be surprised (or not) how many lw fans don't realize the above and fly them both pretty much the same.

moot · « **Reply #88 on:** October 07, 2003, 06:06:27 PM »

it's a shame.

muckmaw · « **Reply #89 on:** October 07, 2003, 06:32:30 PM »

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Gee Muck your making me feel bad for being lazy this week and flying a la7 and niks in furballs. Most of my kills have been in f6s of late but when fuel gets porked I have to switch to something else. So I use a nik with 50% fuel works great in furballs. I like the hurri2 for this also. But I like to land kills and its hard to rtb in a hurri. I used to use the fm2 for furballs but I got lazy and tired of assists with the 50cals. I guess I could start using the yak but its darn clip is so short and I am such a hoser. Hmmm maybe the green zeek that might be fun. White zeek out of the question its guns are a joke. Ki61 no its guns fire too fast otherwise great plane. Hows the yak on fuel when base is porked. Does it have the legs to furball with 25% or 50% fuel?

OK I am on a mission to find a new furballer.

Im going to try out that Clown tailed plane some one mentioned.

I think it was a Ki-61?

I am really looking for an FM-2 with a little more horse power.

(Thats not a spitfire...or a seafire...*sigh* wiseasses)