A funny thing happend on the FesterMA map last night...

[gofaster]

So I'm buzzing along in my little Spitfire Vb, about 5k up with 50% fuel and climbing.  I spot a higher dot, pull up the radar, and identify it as a bandit.

Ok, level out now. Get some speed up.  Here he comes.

Icon says its a FW190.  Pushing an HO merge is out of the question and he's faster than I am so setting up on the beam will just make me a target.  Ok, think man, think!  I know, I'll get some speed up, pass underneath him in his blindspot, and set him up for an overshoot.

I push the nose down a little, airspeed picking up over 200.  Here he comes, he's nosing down, coming straight in, about 4.0 out now, probably gonna use his firepower to win the HO merge.

I nose over a little more, speed getting faster, gonna need all of it to catch him if he runs, gonna need it now to stay out of his gunsight.

Here he comes, 3.0 out, don't give him a nose-on shot.  Push over a little more and try to slide under his nose into the blind spot underneath the cowling...

Ok, he's 1.5 out now, coming in fast, I'm nose down, gotta get underneath him and pull around.

Tracers!  He's pushed over on me, guns chattering as he zips by, throttle wide open, German engine screaming as I catch a dark grey streak flash past overhead.

Then a boom.

"You shot down _______ #1."

Sometimes even a blind dog finds a bone.

[Curval]

I guess he rammed you?  Or did he auger?

Either way it wasn't me....I was the spit that just could shake your spit.  

Funny, 'cause in that engagement I realised quite quickly that the pilot in that other spit knew what he was going.  You were supposed to overshoot and then I kill you...clear?  

[MRPLUTO]

gofaster:

This is what happened.  I think.   From your point of view there was no collision; you were watching and flying carefully, so you avoided it.  From the 190's point of view, he collided with you.  Perhaps he was going too fast and couldn't get out of the way or he just mis-timed his pass, but I'm sure he saw a collision.  It was his fault; he saw it coming on his end but did not avoid it.

I had the opposite happen to me in a SnapShot.  I dove on a Typhoon flying straight & level.  I attacked from his high 11:30.  From my point of view, I broke of my attack about 70 yards above him after putting a bunch of shells into his right wingroot.  He blew up.

But he said I rammed him.  Maybe from his end it looked like a ram.

Either  way, he could have avoided the ram or the kill by watching more carefully (he never saw me) and just manuvering a bit.  Then, no matter how you look at it, my plane or shells would have missed him.

MRPLUTO VMF-323 ~Death Rattlers~ MAG-33

[gofaster]

Actually, we were both pointing nose down, me a bit more than him, and he found Mother Earth's embankment after the merge.  

Curval, that was one heckuva twisting, turning, e-management Spitfire Vb fight the other night.  Its rare to find a 1v1 engagement on the front lines against same planes in the MA (and when I do, they're usually over after 2 or 3 turns).   You managed to stay juuuuust above my gunsight so that I couldn't draw a lead turn and walk my shells into your elevators.  And then on the reversals we were passing so close that my shells couldn't converge.  White knuckle time, baby!  

[MRPLUTO]

Ah, I see...the "Lawn Dart" phenomenon.  Since you could hear his engine at full power he was really asking for it.  I bet he won't make that mistake again.

MRPLUTO

[B17Skull12]

was this after or before i got the proxy on you in my 190?