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Offline Twist

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« on: October 10, 2003, 07:42:20 PM »
Here are some 'facts' (please note the '' around the word 'facts', I have not yet verified them) about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May
and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell,
so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the
custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had
the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then
the women and finally the children--last of all the babies. By then the
water was so dirty you could actually lose
someone in it -- hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath
water."

Houses had thatched roofs--thick straw--piled high, with no wood underneath.
It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the dogs, cats and
other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became
slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof, hence
the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a
real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could really mess
up your nice clean bed; hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over
the top afforded some protection. That's how canopy beds came into
existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt, hence
the saying "dirt poor."

The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet,
so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing. As
the winter wore on, they kept
adding more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start
slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway -- hence, a
"thresh hold."

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always
hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot.
They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the
stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then
start over the next day. Sometimes the stew had food in it that had been
there for quite a while -- hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas
porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When
visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a
sign of wealth that a man "could bring home the bacon."

They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around
and "chew the fat."

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content
caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning and
death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or
so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the
loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust."

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes
knock them out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would
take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the
kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and
eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up -- hence the custom of
holding a "wake."

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places
to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and take the bones to a "bone
house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25
coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized
they had been burying people alive. So they thought they would tie a string
on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the
ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard
all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone
could be "saved by the bell" or was considered a "dead ringer."

And that's the truth... (who said that History was boring?)

Well, true or not I found them interesting. If time allows some day maybe I'll do some research on this subject.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2003, 12:08:43 AM by Twist »
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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2003, 10:23:16 PM »
Need to check your facts .
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2003, 10:42:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Need to check your facts .


I always find it funny how much faith you eager "skeptics" put in  snopes... :)

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2003, 03:29:51 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I always find it funny how much faith you eager "skeptics" put in  snopes... :)



Well... in all the years that they've been at it, I've yet to see anyone prove that Snopes is wrong.

Plus... they do provide references...

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    Ayto, John.   Dictionary of Word Origins.
    New York: Arcade Publishing, 1990.   ISBN 1-559-70214-1.

    Burke, James.   Connections.
    London: Duckworth, 1998.

    Fraser, Antonia.   The Wives of Henry VIII.
    New York: Vintage Books, 1992.   ISBN 0-769-73001-X.

    Hendrickson, Robert.   Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins.
    New York: Facts on File, 1997.   ISBN 0-86237-122-7.

    Iserson, Kenneth.   Death to Dust: What Happens to Dead Bodies?
    Tuscon, Arizona: Galen Press, 1994.   ISBN 1-883620-07-4.

    Mieder, Wolfgang.   "(Don't) Throw the Baby Out With the Bathwater."
    De Proverbio.   Vol.1, No. 1; 1995.

    Rawson, Hugh.   Devious Derivations.
    New York: Crown Trade Paperbacks, 1994.   ISBN 0-517-88128-4.

    Titelman, Gregory.   Dictionary of Popular Proverbs and Sayings.
    New York: Random House, 1996.   ISBN 0-679-44554-4.

    Visser, Margaret.   The Rituals of Dinner.
    New York: Grove Weidenfeld, 1991.   pp. 190-1, 211-2.

    Merriam-Webster's New Book of Word Histories.
    Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster Inc., 1991.   ISBN 0-877-79603-3.

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2003, 03:59:57 AM »
snopes wasn't even really necessary to realize that it was completely fabricated.  they just picked a phrase and then continued on with nothing more than a guess and pure BS to fit it into the story.