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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2003, 09:58:17 AM »
What karnak said.

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Re: unperk the 152
« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2003, 10:13:37 AM »
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why should the 152 be perked i no they perk planes to keep them in low numbers but how would the 152 see to much use when the nik is not perked and it is a late war plane that i dont think ever saw real combat and the 152 is not a great plane it rips its wing tips easy at high speed and its only good alt is 20k+

i think the 152 should be unperked;)
Have you even flown this plane in the MA?

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2003, 10:38:14 AM »
(OT: Karnac is right, but they will never do it.)  

The 152 is a good plane.  

(a) The 152 holds a supertanker load of fuel, much much more than any 190.  Inexperienced people simply fly it way too heavy, especially at first because they just don't know any better.

(b)  Shooting cannons well (especially 30mm) is much more difficult to learn.  Learning to shoot 20mm AND 30mm at the same time is even more tough because the trajectories are much different.  If you try to shoot like you have 50 Caliber you will be dissapointed everytime.

IMHO what you get are people flying too heavy and can't shoot trying the plane a few times and then putting it on the shelf thinking they have given it a fair try.  

Perkwise, it is plenty cheap - a couple of spit/la7/niki kills in something other than the big 5 and you just earned enough to buy one.

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« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2003, 01:53:10 PM »
1 im used to bad trajectorie the plane i enjoy the most is the 109g-6 with only the 30mm

2 we have planes like the 190d-9 and the nik that are not perked

and the ta 152 is only better then the 190d-9 above 25k

3 almost every plane is deadly if used right even the 202:rofl

i just dont think this plane is so GREAT!!! that it needs a perk price

one last thing take look at the aces high stats the ta 152 is no were near the spit14
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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2003, 01:56:21 PM »
Have you flown the 152 in the MA or are you just here posting a "look at me" thread in hopes of making friends by dragging in a horse that's been beaten to death already?

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« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2003, 02:12:18 PM »
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1one last thing take look at the aces high stats the ta 152 is no were near the spit14


http://www.innomi.com/ahkillstats/totalstats.php?sortby=kdratio_sort

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« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2003, 02:22:14 PM »
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one last thing take look at the aces high stats the ta 152 is no were near the spit14


http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/scores/statsresults.pl

The Ta 152H has 2 kills and has been killed 0 times against the Spitfire Mk XIV.

This was interesting:

The Ta 152H has 23 kills and has been killed 6 times against the N1K2.

and evidently here is what can happen with a guy that knows how to fly it:

Muut has 100 kills and has been killed 7 times in the Ta 152H.

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« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2003, 04:33:39 PM »
People have been making posts like this about the 152 as long as I've been here. I suggest making rants about the innacuracies in the model, then work on getting it un-perked. In any case, AH2 is upon us. I wouldn't get too worked up about it.
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« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2003, 04:38:38 PM »
Even if Ta152 would be unperked, you wouldnt see much of them.
Because its a winged POS.

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« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2003, 05:14:11 PM »
i find ta152 very similar to 190d9... never turn it... BUT if hunting buffs, its a total killer. Just few minutes ago cleared 3xb17 in a single pass with 152 riding near 500mph. I dove high and directly from their left so i was able to land hits to all of 'em. 190d9 could never accomplish the same.. Also dogfighting with 2 190A5 (or A8) at < 5k took place in second sortie. Shot down one but lack of skill with that 30mm caused ammo depletion and rtb before second was finished.  

What i'm saying is that if flown properly its really seems to be like D9 with mg->20mm and 20mm->30mm.

And not forgetting the performance of LW cannons... 190d9 is not perked...

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« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2003, 05:28:41 PM »
why bother unperking it if your not gonna fly it anyway???

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« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2003, 05:34:29 PM »
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one last thing take look at the aces high stats the ta 152 is no were near the spit14


Evidently you haven't.

As i said before the 152 is used more and has a better k/d than the spit14. Yet the spit14 costs 45 perks more.


Maybe the solution isn't unperking the 152 but perking the d9.;) :D
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2003, 05:48:37 PM »
i was not talking about its kill stats:rolleyes:  

i was talking about its chart when you look at the 190d-9 and the ta 152 190d-9 is better at low to mid and low high alt the ta 152 only becomes better above 25k
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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2003, 05:51:23 PM »
i say unperk the ta-152 or perk it as low as the f4u-1c..the ta-152 aint that fast and cant turn well under 20k..so really whats the point of perking it...if ur gonna perk it..perk just as low as the f4u-1c

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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2003, 08:09:10 PM »
The Ta 152H has 441 kills and has been killed 176 times for a K/D ratio of 2.51 to 1.
The Ta152H has a base cost of 20 perk points.


The Spitfire Mk XIV has 194 kills and has been killed 137 times for a K/D ratio of 1.42 to 1.
The Spitfire Mk XIV has a base cost of 60 perk points.


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