Author Topic: China's first manned space launch imminent (Read 1378 times)

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #45 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:34:05 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Fishu, actually it's the French who owns most of the satellite launching marked.

Well everyone has gotta be good at something, even them..

Fishu · « **Reply #46 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:53:04 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Fishu, actually it's the French who owns most of the satellite launching marked.

Thats surprising.. should keep closer look at those.
What have they done to get to that.. I'm sure those arent' just Canal+ satellites :>

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #47 on:** October 15, 2003, 05:55:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Thats surprising.. should keep closer look at those.
What have they done to get to that.. I'm sure those arent' just Canal+ satellites :>

Ariane.

http://www.arianespace.com

-ammo- · « **Reply #48 on:** October 15, 2003, 06:50:36 AM »

"herro Reijing, I ran ree you rum reer"

Pooh21 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 15, 2003, 06:55:48 AM »

Must be cool to have a billion people, so you dont have to start your manned space flights with dogs or monkeys.

Fishu · « **Reply #50 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:26:23 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Ariane.

http://www.arianespace.com

Ariane is multi national space program, so it leaves a question what is frenchies position in this, as they've been putting up alot of satellites down to their records?

Should probably look at the specializations of each country in the program, that could probably explain it... in the case other countries takes the money for building the satellites and frenchies takes the credits of delivery.

straffo · « **Reply #51 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:30:46 AM »

repost :

It comes from arianespace web site.

Fishu · « **Reply #52 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:42:06 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
repost :

It comes from arianespace web site.

I were first looking it was the amount of satellites delivered versus other countries in EU

Haven't had enough time to check out the site

straffo · « **Reply #53 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:50:59 AM »

Oooops ... right I didn't undertood Gsholtz post right.

It's the share repartition of ariannespace I guess it make it more Yuropean than French

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #54 on:** October 15, 2003, 07:53:56 AM »

Ariane isdominated by France and its launched from a french colony (?) in South America....

straffo · « **Reply #55 on:** October 15, 2003, 08:10:55 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Ariane isdominated by France and its launched from a french colony (?) in South America....

It's a "Département" a DOM (Département d'Outre-Mer) not a TOM (Territoire d'Outre-Mer) a sort of county.

They have a status quite similar to France (métropolitaine) Départements with a few minor local adaptation.

A contrario the TOM are more autonomous.

it's a extremly simplified version.

-dead- · « **Reply #56 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:18:34 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
Let me clear it up for you: The US developed the space shutttle in the late 60's through mid seventies, completeing the project in the late 70's and launching it into space in the early 1980's and no other nation has duplicated it since.

That's mostly because the shuttle is rather uneconomical as far as $/lb of payload goes compared to rockets. Here's a complicated study on the shuttle and here's a nice comparative one. The comparative one shows that out of all the heavy launchers, the shuttle is the most expensive for Low Earth Orbit ($567/lb or 14% more than the next most expensive) and Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit ($12,056/lb or 110% more than the next most expensive). However, these figures are somewhat speculative, given the fact that the shuttle is not a commercial vehicle, and that the figure is worked out from the maximum capacity rather than the actual payload sent up. However it serves as a "rule of thumb" comparision.

udet · « **Reply #57 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:23:55 PM »

the Moon and especially Mars stories are overimflated news and pure propaganda

udet · « **Reply #58 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:24:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
Must be cool to have a billion people, so you dont have to start your manned space flights with dogs or monkeys.

that's a good one!!!!

udet · « **Reply #59 on:** October 15, 2003, 03:24:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Pooh21
Must be cool to have a billion people, so you dont have to start your manned space flights with dogs or monkeys.

that's a good one!!!!:aok