Author Topic: Palestinians Screw Up, Bad (Read 1760 times)

Pooh21 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 16, 2003, 06:59:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
L-O-V-E is the answer

Yeah love in increments of 2000lbs

Eagler · « **Reply #31 on:** October 16, 2003, 08:26:39 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
the convoy were mediator John Wulf's men, and few US embassy guys guarded by Dyncorp.

Bozon

and the former was probably the target not the car of security men - the last car in the convoy

pictures ragheads mashing the button repeated screaming "go boom, go boom!"

at least the pal police are making an attempt to arrest somebodies and make a show of it ...

Udie · « **Reply #32 on:** October 16, 2003, 08:40:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Most likely it was Israelis desperate move to gain US to their side in order to launch a 'final solution' to the Palestinian problem.

That's what things are adding up down there.

yeah I guess you're right. And all the pal's dancing in the streets on 9/11 and those throwing the rocks at the bombing investigators were all isreali agents trying to fool the evil amereeeekans.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #33 on:** October 16, 2003, 08:49:29 AM »

Amazing how those who blame the Israelis fail to recognize that the costs to them of attacking the United States and being found out significantly outweigh any advantages. The United States is already on their side doing things such as blocking United Nations resolutions denouncing the building of the security fence. Why in the world would they risk alienating their biggest ally and staunchest supporter?

Think before you post, people.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Pooh21 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:00:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Amazing how those who blame the Israelis fail to recognize that the costs to them of attacking the United States and being found out significantly outweigh any advantages. The United States is already on their side doing things such as blocking United Nations resolutions denouncing the building of the security fence. Why in the world would they risk alienating their biggest ally and staunchest supporter?

Think before you post, people.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Because the UFO Masons and The secret Jewish org that runs the world tells them to. Siaf can intercept their transmissions on his tinfoil hat and he knows all.

Yeager · « **Reply #35 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:02:27 AM »

One point Three Billion Muslims.

Remember folks, L-O-V-E...its all about love.

LePaul · « **Reply #36 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:02:58 AM »

USS Liberty comes to mind

NUKE · « **Reply #37 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:08:42 AM »

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Originally posted by bigsky
nuke, the problem is that the palestinians have a homeland and its called palestine and as far as their concerned there is a lot of jews squating on there land right now. where you stoned during that history class? if you dont believe me then find a 50 year old map and look for yourself. just because you classify palesinians as just plain ole ragheads and they could move anywhere in "ragheadland" makes no sense. you should sue your school for not doing there job and gradjeating you to be just another handsomehunk in this world.

You really don't know what you are talking about. No people had ever had a national homeland in "Palestine" since the Jews 2000 years ago.

You need to research how the " 50 year old map" and the name "Palestine" on that map came about after the break up of the Ottoman empire following WWI. Then read up on the people that lived in the British controlled and area THEY ( British) named "Palestine". Read on about Trans- Jordon and on how the areas on that 50 year old map were divided. 25% of the British "Palestine" on the map was to be a Jewish Palestinian homeland . Do you even comprehend what Jewsish Palestinian means? It means that there is no RACE known as Palestinian.

There is no such thing as a "Palestinian" people as a race, other than maybe the Jews that lived there 2000 years ago. Think I don't know what Im talking about or that I sound crazy for saying that? Well all I can say is crack open a few books.

The whole issue of the "Palestinians" just trying to get their "homeland" back is a big farce. The PLO are just a bunch of murderous thugs who nearly succeeded in over throwing Jordon, and were explelled from that state.

straffo · « **Reply #38 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:13:40 AM »

There is nothing like a jew race, using the same reasoning you should evacuate USA no ?

Godwin's Law will aply soon I guess.

Gadfly · « **Reply #39 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:14:08 AM »

Why is this bombing any worse than any other? It is not the first time the Palis have killed Americans in Israel, and it won't be the last.

DmdNexus · « **Reply #40 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:40:26 AM »

I would have to agree that the Palistenians are not acting in their best interest by continuing their bombing campaign.

It seemed like progress was being made at some kind of peace.

At the same time I wonder why these people are so desparate and why they are taking on extreme and desparate means to fight the Israelis.

What does it take to drive people commit acts of atrosity and suicide.

Have they lived with oppression, poverty, and death for so long that to each and every sole, it is a fight for mere existence?

Are they evil?

Do they do this just just kill people - like Americans do when they take AK-47s into school yards?

Why are Palistenians exhiled from the lands they lived on for over 2000 years?
Replaced by European Jews, because the UN in 1948 established a Jewish homeland. Did they have any vote in this?

I wonder if the American Indians can relate to their plight?

Palistenians have been given the worse land, the worse aquifers, the worse of everything in that region.

Their homes are bulldozed with out due process.
Their people are put into Israeli jails with out formal charges, with out due process, their jobs and lives are destroyed by the Israelis.

What lands the Palistenians do have, the Israelis have illegally take with their west bank settlements. What's with that?

Land, money, greed.

Why hasn't the UN stepped in between the two, like it has in many other places in the world. [Because the US and Israel don't want them too... then Israel would have to stop their opression and stop their illegal activities of stealing land from an impoversed people]

Don't get me wrong both sides are quilty of atrocious crimes. There's no justification for either one them. There will only be peace with both sides deside to stop the violence. Israel has done this several times - and so have the Palitenians... and they have both, broken the peace.

However, I think Israel is more in the wrong than the Palitenians, because they have the might, and they have the ability, to stop their own provocations (the west settlements!), but they don't because they know this provokes the Palitenians to set off bombs... and thus makes the Palitenians look like terrorists.

What I find interesting is that Sharon was brought up on war crimes in the Hague last year for his role in authorizing the masacre of 800 women and children whild Israel invaded Lebanon back in 1983. The charges were quietly dismissed.

The UN really should go in their and build a brick wall between the two, kick the Israels out of the west bank, and hunt down the Hamas and all the other radical terrorist groups, and hold Israel accountable for bull dozing houses and jailing people with out due process.

That's my road map to peace.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #41 on:** October 16, 2003, 09:52:26 AM »

Nuke you do understand that Palestine has been continously inhabited by arabs and other semites of all sorts for thosands of years and that it has been governed by those people and others by their own and Islamic overnments for hundreds of years. They did not just show up in 1948 to disrupt the creation of Israel.

This idea somehow that those people are foreigners in their own birthland is one of the most bizzare and ignorant fantasies that the more rabid Israel supporters have.

Just get over it, they have to get a state it is the only way to resolve this in the long run. Wheter they are ready to have that state now is disputable but the fact that they do need one is not.

Its like saying that the USA was never a homeland to anyone except the native indians... Its beyond ridiculos..

straffo · « **Reply #42 on:** October 16, 2003, 10:02:18 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ

Its like saying that the USA was never a homeland to anyone except the native indians... Its beyond ridiculos..

I'm not ridicolus

I'm insane ... nothing new please proceed to next post ...

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JBA · « **Reply #43 on:** October 16, 2003, 10:03:24 AM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Release the Hounds!

Release the Isreali's
this whole mess would be over in a weekend.

Charon · « **Reply #44 on:** October 16, 2003, 10:17:42 AM »

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You really don't know what you are talking about. No people had ever had a national homeland in "Palestine" since the Jews 2000 years ago.

And certainly not the Jews, either. That doesn't changed the fact that for those 2,000 years, 90 percent of the population living in Palestine were not Jews. That did not begin to change until the rise of modern Zionism, which was driven by Jews living in Europe looking to establish a homeland. The movement was founded by Theodor Herzl and is said to begun with the publication of Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) in 1896.
Initially, while the Biblical homeland would be the most desirable (for religious/historic reasons) location for the foreign Jews to resettle, a fact finding mission to the region noted at the time: "The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man..." Argentina was considered as an alternative, but sentimentality won out in the end so the European Jewish community began looking for a way to break up the marriage. Which led to...

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You need to research how the " 50 year old map" and the name "Palestine" on that map came about after the break up of the Ottoman Empire following WWI. Then read up on the people that lived in the British controlled and area THEY ( British) named "Palestine". Read on about Trans- Jordon and on how the areas on that 50 year old map were divided. 25% of the British "Palestine" on the map was to be a Jewish Palestinian homeland . Do you even comprehend what Jewsish Palestinian means? It means that there is no RACE known as Palestinian.

Nuke, how do you reconcile the fact that when Chaim Weizman lobbied the British for the promise of a Jewish state (in Europe, btw, as part of his process of his "synthetic Zionism" philosophy laid out at the Eighth Zionist Congress), he clearly stated that nothing would be done to prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine (which were 600,000 Arabs compared to 56,000 Jews). Clearly a case of telling the British what they wanted to hear, given his writings. And being involved in WW1 at the time against the Turks, Britain was working to maintain stability in the region by offering all sides something -- probably with no real intention of seeing any of it through once the crisis abated. However, for the European Zionists the Balfour Declaration of 1917 unlocked the real possibility of a Jewish state from the European power that controlled the region.

Of course, what political, ethical and social authority did a European Zionists and a European power like Great Britain have to negotiate an arrangement (to both the British and Zionists) that ignored the participation of 90 percent of the population actually living on the ground in the region, as they had for 2,000 years?

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There is no such thing as a "Palestinian" people as a race, other than maybe the Jews that lived there 2000 years ago. Think I don't know what Im talking about or that I sound crazy for saying that? Well all I can say is crack open a few books.

Maybe you should follow your own advice.

Charon