Author Topic: Can never find a fight on pizza map! (Read 8996 times)

SLO · « **Reply #120 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:48:02 AM »

laz laz laz......

calling him names like metatard and sky accountant is not productive......shame you have to stoop so low....but it is expected of ya on this here Board

you are very wrong in your assesment of him.....trust me...he can knife fight down low...with the best in this here arena...including Manx....I'd say 50 50 with any of them

but he PREFERS other tactics.....personnally i don't follow him up when he goes for buffs....but damn if that boy can shot buffs so easily....its fun to watch em do it.

most people think i suck....yet i fight any plane or anyone including the so called best in the arena.....with a 10k tif.

I mostly fly a tif under 15k....get nosebleed over 15k...yet most so called good pilots(crooks) fly over 20k....its a fact.....there perchers......so what.

I've found every fight i wanted to be in on the pizza map.....so has alot of peeps.....

I say the pizza haters are in the minority....

Zanth · « **Reply #121 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:50:29 AM »

This "debate" reminds me of those beer commercials - "Less Filling!" "Taste Great!". The chicks fighting was more fun to watch though

Rude · « **Reply #122 on:** October 29, 2003, 08:58:05 AM »

What's humorous to me about all of this, is I'm probably one of the few here who has lived by both schools of thought.

I flew for years like the Meta and Beetle...high K/D's brought on only becuase I never took unnecessary risks. The 13th used to fly that way...if winning the squad duel awhile back means anything, we kinda knew what we were doing.

About a year ago, I realized that I didn't have the skillset necessary to deal with DISadvantage...only real option for me was to run and hope to separate to re-engage on my terms....that bothered me.

So, I begin to fight in the weeds and solicit the help of the skilled pilots in this game to help me learn how to really fight, not just get kills and a high K/D. The 13th has also followed that doctrine.

Now, the guys like Beetle and Met tell us all how it is like they really know something...all the while speaking only from a singular point of view...that of the cherry picker.

Not one of them could survive a good one v one encounter with anyone here who understands the turnfight. Still, we should all bow down to the masterful scorehounds as they most certainly know more of what it takes to actually beat someone.

I suppose you guys should continue to fly as you wish to....just understand, that we also will continue to do what we enjoy and all the while still view you girls as Women With Wings.

As to Meta....talk is cheap pal....as you seem to have a wealth of speech to share with all of us.

lazs2 · « **Reply #123 on:** October 29, 2003, 09:10:43 AM »

sorry slo... I'm gonna have to take manx's assesment of metatards skills over your's. I don't think you are really capable of judging. Wow! you go all the way down to 10K in your helpless slow tiffie! man... if you don't keep your speed up there might be a plane or two that could catch ya... better watch out.

Rude is saying it best... I used to complain that when his squad was doing co-ordinated B&Z it was no fun to be in early war planes. Really... not much you can do against a flock of 51's all keeping their speed up.... it wasn't fun to fight em.... they finally decided it wasn't all that fun to be them.... most sky accountants eventually realize that.

The 13th is a blast to fight now.... no one ever says how much fun it is to fight a sky accountant.... even metatards "priase" of beetle for killing him was a sour grape.... kinda.... "I was holding off a hole horde of players with my great skill till you ruined it" kinda praise.

If it wasn't so boring I would grab a tempest and run down a few more sky accountants... better to just ignore them tho like everyone else does and have fun.
lazs

MetaTron · « **Reply #124 on:** October 29, 2003, 09:53:53 AM »

Show me one camp you had a high k/d in Rude. Talk is cheap.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #125 on:** October 29, 2003, 10:04:15 AM »

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Originally posted by MetaTron
Show me one camp you had a high k/d in Rude. Talk is cheap.

K/D is, like any other statistic that AH tracks, only a potential measure of skill. Possessing a high K/D may indicate skill but not necessarily. By the same token, a low K/D does not necessarily indicate a lack of skill.

Someone could be the best pilot to ever grace the virtual skies, but if he routinely tries to up from vulched bases, he's going to have a much lower K/D ratio than someone of substantially lower skill who flies very cautiously. By the same token, the guy with the high K/D ratio could be quite a bit better than the guy with a low one.

So for the love of God, stop comparing your virtual noodle size, MetaTron. Nobody cares because just about everyone here realizes that stats or ranking rarely reflect abilities.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Mini D · « **Reply #126 on:** October 29, 2003, 10:35:24 AM »

So... rude... just to sumarize:

The 13th has gone from one extreme to the other but choses to behave the exact way when defending their flying style.

Gotcha.

MiniD

beet1e · « **Reply #127 on:** October 29, 2003, 11:39:09 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
boring chase and boring kills. satisfying but not that satisfying. better to just log off and catch up on bills or laundry.

Lazs, that’s my feeling about furballing. I’m not saying you’re wrong or that I’m right – or vice-versa. Just different. To each his own.

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Originally posted by Rude
Now, the guys like Beetle and Met tell us all how it is like they really know something...all the while speaking only from a singular point of view...that of the cherry picker.

Not one of them could survive a good one v one encounter with anyone here who understands the turnfight. Still, we should all bow down to the masterful scorehounds as they most certainly know more of what it takes to actually beat someone.

I suppose you guys should continue to fly as you wish to....just understand, that we also will continue to do what we enjoy and all the while still view you girls as Women With Wings.

See what I mean? From the very squad whose mantra runs along the lines of ”fly what you like, like what you fly, don’t worry about what the other guy flies”, and all that baloney about “more choices for everyone”, comes this virtual panty wetting from Rude. It was he I had in mind when I warned that individual playing styles would be rubbished if they differed from those of guys like Rude and the other vociferous lackeys of the furball movement. And here is the proof. They say one thing, but do another. They’ll say “fly how you like” etc. – but when you DO that, and when you DO exercise the plethora of choices available to you in this game, and when you DO fly differently from them, you get insulted, and castigated along the lines of women with wings, masterful scorehounds etc. So much for all those choices.

Rude, I thought I liked you, but I’m beginning to see you and your ilk as hypocrisy personified. More choices? Yeah, right. So long as we make a selection from your subset of choices.

Now get to the bathroom to wring out your panties, and get a grip. QWW week will come around soon enough. My laundry basket will be full by then.

MetaTron · « **Reply #128 on:** October 29, 2003, 11:57:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
So for the love of God, stop comparing your virtual noodle size, MetaTron. -- Todd/Leviathn

Funny you should go to that. noodle envy huh? Sorry for you.

I checked your stats as far back as tour 32 and the more you fly the less you land. I can see how you would react the way you do. Same goes for rude whos crowning achievement seems to be a k/d of 10. Im impressed.

Rutilant · « **Reply #129 on:** October 29, 2003, 12:01:50 PM »

I have a K/d of 1.. am i cool too?

(Edit) Actually, i justed checked.. it's 2!

Grimm · « **Reply #130 on:** October 29, 2003, 12:27:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Rutilant
I have a K/d of 1.. am i cool too?

(Edit) Actually, i justed checked.. it's 2!

Yup... You can be Cool Too!

I just wanted to post in the thread, God Iv been laughing for a while now ready the posts! I wonder if it will get locked....

I can only think of one time, I might have crossed Metatron. He bested me right away. I dove down to miss his face shooting, but too late and he clip off most the tail. Then my squadie chased him around and he wouldnt engage.

Does that make him good or bad, ::shrug:: He is doing his thing for $15 a month, just as the rest of us.

Pizza is by far the my least favorite map. Its like fighting out of Denver. Many of the fields are 1-2 miles above SL. Maybe if they Squished it, changed most of the GV fields to Airfeilds and tighted it up a little it would be better. Trinity is still my fav, but FesterMA is good too.

OK, My K/D is over 1, Does that make me cool too????

MetaTron · « **Reply #131 on:** October 29, 2003, 01:01:09 PM »

Wrong, you were at 25k in P51B and I was at 22k in a 109g10. You were the third plane I attacked out of a group of thirty there. I climbed up to you where you broke low to the right and I cut your tail off. It wasnt anywhere near HO. If anything I was maybe 70 degrees off a direct 6 shot. You called for your squaddies to kill me and stubbornly stayed in your plane while the fight went on. I already had another three guys dead when I finally got your kill.

Your squaddy was in a heavy and slow moving plane and never scored a hit and didnt have a chance of doing so. In all fairness there were a few other bishops that high but it was you rooks that were from 25-35k. I didnt run I climbed to engage.

In fact the second screenshot I posted is the sector I killed you in.

lazs2 · « **Reply #132 on:** October 29, 2003, 01:08:32 PM »

well metatard... not really fair to compare the skills of a real acm expert like yourself with the worst players in the game like dead man flying or drex or somebody... they haven't garnered the well earned respect that you have from other players.... probly never will.

beetle, I agree... we have different objectives.... we are not saying that you can't fly the fastest planes or that you be penalized for cherry picking or that you lose perks for less than a certain kills per hour or for playing during kiddie/euro hours.... we don't really care that meta does that. We simply want a map that give EVERYONE a choice... a map like festers doesn't take anything away from you or meta.... you can still climb to 30k or hide all nite without seeing another plane... it limits you in no way.... the pizza abortion does limit the usefulness of early war planes and makes it difficult for a furball to start or sustain.

but beetle... come on... admit it.... you cringed when metatard was comparing himself to DMF tho didn't ya?
lazs

MetaTron · « **Reply #133 on:** October 29, 2003, 01:35:43 PM »

Well we made it 130 posts before someone mentioned drex. Imagine that! And its so on topic too. Lets see how exactly does drex feel about the pizza map?

Doesnt matter. I bet he couldnt find a fight there either.

gofaster · « **Reply #134 on:** October 29, 2003, 01:36:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Grimm
I can only think of one time, I might have crossed Metatron. He bested me right away.

The only time(s) I remember crossing Metatron was when he was spawn camping in a Tiger on Fester's map. I upped (edit: it was 6 or 7) times in a Panzer and tried to clear him, then decided to just pop smoke and force him to move. Right about then one of my countrymen showed up in a B-26, used my smoke as a marker, and he moved back to his hangar. Not long afterwards, he showed up in a Bish Typhoon while I was in a C-47.