Author Topic: Cost Of War  (Read 915 times)

Offline medicboy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 666
Cost Of War
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2003, 06:32:32 PM »
That left wing rag is the first place I have heard anything even close to that...  You try again, from a legit source..

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2003, 06:35:42 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by medicboy
That left wing rag is the first place I have heard anything even close to that...  You try again, from a legit source..


http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2002/11/46657.html
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2003, 06:36:17 PM »
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline medicboy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 666
Cost Of War
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2003, 06:44:51 PM »
Maybe you should read things before you post... :rofl
Here is a quote from that last link:

"America did not put Saddam in power. He emerged after two decades of turmoil in the ’60s and ’70s, as various strongmen tried to gain control of a nation that had been concocted by British imperialists in the 1920s out of three distinct and rival factions, the Sunnis, Shiites and the Kurds. "

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2003, 06:46:14 PM »
Rumsfeld was aware that Saddam was a murderous thug who supported terrorists and was trying to build a nuclear weapon. (The Israelis had already bombed Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak.) But at the time, America’s big worry was Iran, not Iraq. The Reagan administration feared that the Iranian revolutionaries who had overthrown the shah (and taken hostage American diplomats for 444 days in 1979-81) would overrun the Middle East and its vital oilfields. On the—theory that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, the Reaganites were seeking to support Iraq in a long and bloody war against Iran. The meeting between Rumsfeld and Saddam was consequential: for the next five years, until Iran finally capitulated, the United States backed Saddam’s armies with military intelligence, economic aid and covert supplies of munitions.

Nice try
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2003, 06:50:07 PM »
But the story of how America helped create a Frankenstein monster it now wishes to strangle is sobering. It illustrates the power of wishful thinking, as well as the iron law of unintended consequences.


and here is the rest of what u quoted

America did not put Saddam in power. He emerged after two decades of turmoil in the ’60s and ’70s, as various strongmen tried to gain control of a nation that had been concocted by British imperialists in the 1920s out of three distinct and rival factions, the Sunnis, Shiites and the Kurds. But during the cold war, America competed with the Soviets for Saddam’s attention and welcomed his war with the religious fanatics of Iran. Having cozied up to Saddam, Washington found it hard to break away—even after going to war with him in 1991. Through years of both tacit and overt support, the West helped create the Saddam of today, giving him time to build deadly arsenals and dominate his people. Successive administrations always worried that if Saddam fell, chaos would follow, rippling through the region and possibly igniting another Middle East war. At times it seemed that Washington was transfixed by Saddam.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2003, 06:51:36 PM »
Yes, with our own interests in mind, we helped saddam, and helped create the mess. That is the way it is.

Let the cleanup begin.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline medicboy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 666
Cost Of War
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2003, 06:53:02 PM »
The question was who put sadam in power, not did the US support the dipsh*(& in a war...   Yes we supported them, in an effort (succesful BTW) to put down a bigger threat at the time.  He (sadam) was never a puppet for the us, we gave them intel on the iranians and some supplies.  We did the same for Afganistan, but we didn't install the taliban...

Offline Sixpence

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5265
      • http://www.onpoi.net/ah/index.php
Cost Of War
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2003, 06:56:32 PM »
W/o our help, he may have been overthrown long ago, but at the time, we needed him in power, and did what we could to help him stay in power.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

Offline medicboy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 666
Cost Of War
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2003, 06:58:23 PM »
If he was overthrown years ago, we would have had no say in who took over his spot, it might have been some one worse (hard to imagine that, but still could have happened)

Offline B17Skull12

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3839
Cost Of War
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2003, 07:09:01 PM »
in
II/JG3 DGS II

Offline medicboy

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 666
Cost Of War
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2003, 07:13:18 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by B17Skull12
in

:confused:

Offline Gadfly

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1364
Cost Of War
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2003, 07:50:48 PM »
"in" is short for "insipid" meaning that the poster has nothing to say, but is proud of thier ability to master 2 letter words, and want everyone to know it.

Offline Holden McGroin

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8591
Cost Of War
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2003, 08:04:32 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Sixpence
W/o our help, he may have been overthrown long ago, but at the time, we needed him in power, and did what we could to help him stay in power.


Boy howdy, when we supported SH it was wrong, when we overthow him it is wrong.

Seems like no matter what we do it is wrong, so maybe we just aught to do what we want to do.  Whatever it is it's wrong anyway, so we might as well get some cheap gasoline while we do it.

Just gotta ask the question, Sixpence, "What would Billy Ray do?"   ;)
Holden McGroin LLC makes every effort to provide accurate and complete information. Since humor, irony, and keen insight may be foreign to some readers, no warranty, expressed or implied is offered. Re-writing this disclaimer cost me big bucks at the lawyer’s office!

Offline Toad

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18415
Cost Of War
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2003, 10:50:11 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Sixpence
Let the cleanup begin.


Where ya been? You've obviously missed a lot of Headline News.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!