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Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on May 28, 2004, 04:44:25 PM
Can anyone grab a jug online and check if they have this bug?

"as soon as hit in the engine, the plane catches fire, and blows up after a while".

ty:)
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: OntosMk1 on May 28, 2004, 04:59:50 PM
You sure its not because of that "Uber Octaine" you use? ;)
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: bozon on May 28, 2004, 07:04:28 PM
happened to me several times.
looks like main fuel hit, 3-4 second later plane goes boom. I remember this in the D25. don't remember if other cases were in other models.

feels a lot less durable than AHI.

Bozon
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: DJ111 on May 28, 2004, 07:16:18 PM
Yeah, my D30s were catching on fire and exploding after a few hits.
Title: P47 Damage Model
Post by: Nomde on May 29, 2004, 10:18:54 PM
There's something definately wrong with the p47 damage model in AH2.

I made a number of flights today using all models of the p47. Each time I received one ping to the engine, the oil and fuel would be damaged, then the plane would blow-up after only a few seconds.

I can understand to expect a few differences from AH and AH2, but this is something which needs to be looked into. The F6F, F4U and P47 all used the R2800 double wasp air cooled radial engine. This had 18 cylinders and there were reports citing how this same engine got men home after some of the cylinders had been shot off during an attack. This is major damage and shows how durable the engine is.

Hitech.......Please check the engine damage model!!
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Hajo on May 30, 2004, 06:42:27 AM
I also posted on the P47 damage model.

I was on the direct 6 of a 110.  Just Jim was in the 110.

The 7mm mg on the 110 appeared to me to go through the R2800 radial, took out the Oil, and got the main fuel tank that sits behind the radial. I caught on fire and exploded seconds later.

I was told that it wasn't a direct 6 shot...from the side, or it went under the radial.  In any case the P47 front end is fragile as heck.
Read my previous post and response from Pyro. P47 had self sealiing fuel tanks.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Kweassa on June 06, 2004, 01:27:12 AM
Simular incident, but I'm the afflicting side. As a P-47 ran past me, I fired a burst of single 20mm gun from the 109.

 I clearly saw the engine part was hit, and fumes and fuel started trailing the P-47, and also saw the fire. I am aware that sometimes, heavy hits to the fuel tanks cause fires on planes. This happened in AH1 too(except it usually seems to be associated with A6Ms..).

 Now, the P-47 pilot, maneuvered on without thinking of bailing. He said that the damage showed only fuel, and no other signs.

 It seems that there are several problems working at the same time here. #1 seems to be that pilots don't have enough feedback on whether their plane is buring or not - maybe some kind of sorting problem makes it very hard to see fires from the cockpit of the P-47?

 #2, seems to be that damages to the fuel tanks almost always results a fire in the P-47. If this is supposed to be feature, then clearly, other planes are not experiencing it.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Pyro on June 08, 2004, 05:36:38 PM
Are you guys seeing this in all P-47s or just the D-40?
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 08, 2004, 05:49:28 PM
I only noticed it in the D40 from both flying it and fighting against it. out of 4  flights in a row same effect 1 or 2 pings/shots then 1 to 2 seconds later BOOM,  no fire notice able except on 1 flight, others fuel leak(showing), or fuel leak visible but not showing in CTRL D


will check  in patch41  soon as I load it, to see if it affects all versions.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 08, 2004, 06:34:13 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
Are you guys seeing this in all P-47s or just the D-40?


Pyro,
Me, DmdJW and MarkAT just flew numerous test flights with all models. They all seem to take 1 burst to damage main fuel, sometimes instant death rest of times a short flight to death afterwards never saw any fire.  Weird thing is you see both black and white smoke but only Main Fuel is showing in RED.  I asked DmdJW to shoot at wing , still same Main Fuel shows red.

Same results from different angles, HO, side shot, from the 6 spot.

DmdJW was in P51D firing at distance 600 to 800 back 1 burst each test ( 2 burst on 2 test)

We have film ( me and DmdJW ) if you need us to email it to you.

hope this helps
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: bustr on June 08, 2004, 06:39:10 PM
I have been seeing it since beta 36. But I have only been flying D11 and D40. That accounts for how weak the D11 and D40 are over flack.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Mark Luper on June 08, 2004, 06:40:00 PM
I have noticed this too, in all models, and worked with TC and DMDJw testing it. The 47 seems much too fragil at this point in time.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: bozon on June 08, 2004, 07:44:03 PM
it happens in all models. fuel tank is hit easily (well, that a 370 gallons tank in there...) then EVERY SINGLE TIME it is hit, a few seconds later the planes goes boom. I counted 6 out of 6, but there were more before I started to count.

Bozon
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Hajo on June 08, 2004, 08:32:26 PM
D 40 here
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: seabat on June 09, 2004, 08:57:10 AM
d-11 here, both receiving and giving side of the coin.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Shane on June 10, 2004, 03:24:26 PM
d-11 here.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Roscoroo on June 10, 2004, 04:07:24 PM
d 11 and d 40 here ...

and sometimes while just turning in a d-11  it will blow up for no reason ...  

for one of the most heavily armered us planes is seams to be the softest of them all ...... a corsair will take more hits then a jug will right now ..

one ping in a jug and it ussually goes boom 5 sec's later .
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 10, 2004, 04:10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
 for one of the most heavily armered us planes is seams to be the softest of them all ...... a corsair will take more hits then a jug will right now ..
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please please don't tell them that, the F4U models are PERFECT! ;)
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Kweassa on June 10, 2004, 04:12:19 PM
Some more happenings - yesterday, our squad was fighting another squad in Mindanao, and since one of them was a dedicated P-47 flyer I had a chance to fight him again and again.

 He was shot down in all of the five engagements, two by myself, three by my squad members.

 All squaddies and myself confirmed that the first shot/ping landed that was visible, immediately caused the fire and smoke.

 Ofcourse, some of the rounds may have bounced at not damaged the plane, but one thing for certain, is all five cases where he was shotdown, was caused by fires.
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 10, 2004, 07:28:33 PM
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Originally posted by Pyro
Are you guys seeing this in all P-47s or just the D-40?


HTC please have a look at the P47 damage model (any version).  (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117420)
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: DipStick on June 10, 2004, 09:55:23 PM
Had same problem 2 days ago v.41. I was in D-11, died twice after only 1 ping. Both times others said I was on fire but I could not see any fire, then a couple of seconds later I blew up. Second time I checked damage real quick and it just said "Engine Oil".

Just noticed this thread also Pyro...

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119731 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=119731)
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Wilbus on June 11, 2004, 04:42:58 AM
BUMP
Title: B36 - P47 damage problem
Post by: Lazerus on June 11, 2004, 07:17:07 AM
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