General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: IntelDan on February 18, 2024, 05:04:29 AM
Title: I.P. for sale?
Post by: IntelDan on February 18, 2024, 05:04:29 AM
What would it take?
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Maverick on February 18, 2024, 09:48:46 AM
money
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Post by: IntelDan on February 19, 2024, 03:11:35 AM
Are you the official spokesman?
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Post by: GasTeddy on February 19, 2024, 04:05:07 AM
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Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 19, 2024, 04:12:42 PM
Only Hitech could answer that.
First only he has the revenue and overhead numbers.
And that means nothing if he has no interest to sell.
But a reasonable number might be 40x NET monthly profit. (Assuming capital equipment is not that big in this case but you'd have to take into account the salaries for someone to run it and maintain it in calc of NET).
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 19, 2024, 04:32:32 PM
Spitballing here. These numbers are probably completely wrong because I'm basing on looking at the scoring numbers.
From the scores it looks like active subs is between 400 and 500?
Splitting the difference: 450x$15=$6,750
$6,750 x 40= $270,000
I suspect if you offered $1,000,000 that it might be considered.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 19, 2024, 04:40:41 PM
From the scores it looks like active subs is between 400 and 500?
I'd say the max number of online you've seen in a year x 5 is a reasonable guess.
Some people just hold accounts open for a long time without often playing.
AND you have to deduct from gross revenue salary for someone else other than HT to maintain\bug fix to get a NET.
My guess there is no number you could rationally offer that would be high enough to tempt him.
Unless you were Elon Musk and willing to vastly over pay for a business.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 19, 2024, 04:55:30 PM
If you could keep the current subs at (estimated 450) you're break even point would be after 12.3 years. (I'm guessing most wouldn't be interested in that kind of return)
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 19, 2024, 05:27:46 PM
If you could keep the current subs at (estimated 450) you're break even point would be after 12.3 years. (I'm guessing most wouldn't be interested in that kind of return)
And when you are dealing with a founder, they often have wildly irrational views of the true value. Either they think think can turn it around or they think about all the blood sweat and tears and money they put into it over the decades means anything. It only has meaning in as much as it has contributed to the current revenue numbers. Otherwise that was long sunk costs and of no interest to a buyer.
Unless you are buying a brand like Aston-Martin, or Harley-Davidson, or Microprose ;) Then you don't really care about the revenue but are buying the brand recognition that has been built.
Sadly I don't think there is much stored value there. Unless you are 50-60 yo and played Air Warrior, you probably have never heard of it. For some reason it just never clicked as much as Warbirds even though a better game and probably more successful over more years.
No amount pure math would justify, is probably worth him giving up the job.
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Post by: hazmatt on February 19, 2024, 07:00:40 PM
I agree.
The other problem would be the learning curve for whoever took it over. I'll try to over simplify it here.
For example: One day when you pull the trigger on the P51 it blows up. Somebody who doesn't know the nuts and bolts of the design would have no idea where to start looking for the issue in the code. If I had (theoretically) written the coad, I would know for example that the code for firing the guns in the P51 was under a function called: Fireweapon(); which calls a function called P51armamen(); which calls a function called 50calballistics etc etc... If you have no idea the actually design of the program you are going to spend a lot of time reading comments and searching for stuff that would be a 5 minute fix for the person who wrote the code.
So unless the dev would be interested in explaining this stuff to somebody who could understand it or making it opensource I don't think it would matter. If it was opensource who would decide what to implement and what happens if the development goes in 5 different directions?
All a very big can of worms :)
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 19, 2024, 07:42:33 PM
The other problem would be the learning curve for whoever took it over. I'll try to over simplify it here.
Exactly. You could sweeten the pot to workout a transition consulting gig for HT to standup a new team, but someone about to run something like that is going to cost you in the 120k range in the DFW area (at the very least). Throw that in you month NET profit calc and see what you have left.
The most rational path would be for a competitor to buy him out, close AH to kill a competition, contract HT to migrate his MMO server tech to back their front end client, like IL2 or DCS or CP. That could give them a quick leg up on achieving what took HT decades.
AH has the best MMO server tech in the business, IMHO. That is a severable, viable, fungible asset that would have real value. That would allow DCS or IL2 (or possibly CP) to focus on their core competency and simply BUY the server tech they need as a near turn-key solution rather than spend 5-8 years more trying to re-roll their own and not benefiting from the decades of experience and all the hard lessons HT has already worked through.
In that case it would only make sense to shut down AH to not cannibalize their projects.
A LOT of tech companies do that. Simply buy and absorb. Faster and simpler than home growing. Microsoft did a ton of that. Google simply bought Youtube. It didn't invent it or develop it itself or duplicate another version of their own.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Dadtallica on February 19, 2024, 07:46:12 PM
We did this exercise a few months ago. With Lusches stats the sub count was approximately 800 and we figured its worth about $600K give or take.
We had another same time on what it would take to hire the team needed to compete and you’re looking at around $500K just to start.
I know because I started the threads lol. I can’t find the first one for some reason.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 19, 2024, 08:02:14 PM
So as an intellectual exercise say you looked at it as a buy and strip.
Compare it to hiring 3 backend engineers at 120k and them taking 4 years to create a server that could perform to HT level.
Not all projects are successful. You could spend years and still end up with a mess vs just buying something that works and getting it a lot sooner. Time is money. Time is risk.
I could see (for instance) DCS say, will buy your server tech and your contract to get it migrated to our product in 6 mo. $1.2mil. That would probably be much less risk for them and risk avoidance is worth money. That is probably worth more money than trying to buy the game itself and turning it around. The game itself has no value except as a proof-of-concept for the server tech.
So that would end with AH closing anyway.
Or it might just be worth it to HT to goas he is now. Keep it as a retirement side gig and work it only as much as amuses him. Someone described AH as a fixed-annuity for HT now and I think that is insightful. He spent decade investing in that "annuity" and now he just wants to kick back an collect the payments. That also is perfectly reasonable to me.
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Post by: Dadtallica on February 19, 2024, 11:13:06 PM
So as an intellectual exercise say you looked at it as a buy and strip.
Compare it to hiring 3 backend engineers at 120k and them taking 4 years to create a server that could perform to HT level.
Not all projects are successful. You could spend years and still end up with a mess vs just buying something that works and getting it a lot sooner. Time is money. Time is risk.
I could see (for instance) DCS say, will buy your server tech and your contract to get it migrated to our product in 6 mo. $1.2mil. That would probably be much less risk for them and risk avoidance is worth money. That is probably worth more money than trying to buy the game itself and turning it around. The game itself has no value except as a proof-of-concept for the server tech.
So that would end with AH closing anyway.
Or it might just be worth it to HT to goas he is now. Keep it as a retirement side gig and work it only as much as amuses him. Someone described AH as a fixed-annuity for HT now and I think that is insightful. He spent decade investing in that "annuity" and now he just wants to kick back an collect the payments. That also is perfectly reasonable to me.
This is why combat pilot may be doomed at the start. That’s a lot of money to throw at a 10+ year hopeful return.
$500k was only year one to restart AH. Using your $120K salaries that are pretty much average, we already have a problem in year #2.
Or go as is, a hard drive in a closet that generates passive income in retirement until it no longer does. Who doesn’t want that?
Let’s just ride this gem until it dies! :banana:
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 20, 2024, 09:40:42 AM
The average computer programmer salary in DFW area is considerably less than $120K.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 20, 2024, 10:30:56 AM
The average computer programmer salary in DFW area is considerably less than $120K.
The conversation is interesting, however, it seems like there are options that are not being considered.
Lets just say for example that HT has a something in his will that would release the code should he be unable to continue.
There are many skilled devs in the open source world that wouldn't cost 120k per year. You would also have the added benefit of having multiple sets of eyeballs looking at the the code.
I agree with your assessment about other games integrating the technology developed for AH3. I for one would like to see the game itself stay around in some from, which I'm not sure would happen if it was bought by one of these other games.
If it was me and I cared about the legacy of the game I would open source the coad so that it could continue on even after I was gone. Releasing the coad would allow other games like DCS and IL2 to use the server part to integrate with their offerings while preserving the latest form of the original game.
An example of something like this is Linux Air Combat developed by bbosen. https://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxaircombat/ Some of you may recall that name. It came from open source GL-117. https://libregamewiki.org/GL-117
If I was a open source coader I would add an interface that would allow the easy addition of new ground vehicles, planes and other objects, kinda like the skins do currently.
I think something like this might keep the game alive in some form for a long time. People could run their own custom servers like combatbox (which I still see at max capacity weekly)
Just some ideas to kick around.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 10:37:04 AM
The average computer programmer salary in DFW area is considerably less than $120K.
The average programmer in DFW is writing javaScript on web pages.
HT's code is C.
Complex, real-time processing, Ansi-C. Low-level networking protocol. No easy-mode memory management (No garbage collector). 3D geometry math.
Totally different level of skillset than your "average" programmer.
Closest analog might be low-level telephony software engineer and those guys given the difficulty and narrow domain knowledge might run 150k. I used to work with those guys. A lot of those guys moved into the high-speed trading space and make WAY more than that.
A 6 month code camp JavaScript graduate ain't gonna hack it.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 20, 2024, 10:48:58 AM
I suspect the open source community would have access to the needed skill set.
Why no discussion on open source? Is that a bad word around here? If it is the filter didn't catch it...
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 10:53:44 AM
I suspect the open source community would have access to the needed skill set.
Why no discussion on open source? Is that a bad word around here? If it is the filter didn't catch it...
Can you give me a list of the AAA quality level Open Source games you've played in the last year?
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Post by: edge12674 on February 20, 2024, 10:55:11 AM
What about a console port of AH? More money resources than PC development.
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Post by: AKIron on February 20, 2024, 10:56:47 AM
I learned C back in the 80's. May hafta take a course on C++ or C Sharp. Of course it will be nothing more than a hobby like all the programming I did before. Schools around here don't offer it. Any good online courses?
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 11:02:06 AM
I learned C back in the 80's. May hafta take a course on C++ or C Sharp. Of course it will be nothing more than a hobby like all the programming I did before. Schools around here don't offer it. Any good online courses?
I assume Udemy.com has some good ones. I assume some good Ansi-C too.
C++ (C language family but you need to understand OOP which can get non-trivial to do well) has made a comeback in to last 10 years due to Unreal Engine.
Personally, I'd suggest C# and Unity3d. YMMV. You might dabble in a Udemy Lua course too.
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Post by: AKIron on February 20, 2024, 11:19:45 AM
Think I bought a Unity3D course from Udemy a while back and never made much progress. I'll look. Thanks.
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Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 11:36:38 AM
Think I bought a Unity3D course from Udemy a while back and never made much progress. I'll look. Thanks.
If you learn C# it can be a powerful tool.
In a long weekend I was hacking up some (lame) data visualization VR experimentations just to get a feel for what I could use it for. Don't laugh, just seeing how things worked. Playing around.
Still, that was only an (intensive) 3-day weekends worth of work. But I had complete a Udemy course on Unity3d about a year before that so not from ground zero.
However, I have 20+ yr experience in C# (8 yr of C++ before that) and I've been dabbling in various game engines and 3d programming for longer than that so there was a lot that was already familiar to me.
But I still think it would be the fastest path for a noob to get something usable and the Unity3d Asset store is freakin amazing.
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Post by: hazmatt on February 20, 2024, 11:47:34 AM
This doesn't sound like you are open to discussion.
Why would you say that? Because I asked you a question? Sorry I ask hard questions. Was I supposed to just rubberstamp?
My point was I've seen a lot of open source game projects start. Helped on a couple. Seldom do they really go anywhere.
Very quickly it is 2-3 guys contributing everything and a bunch of other people asking when it will be done so they can use it. lol.
Now open source business software is different. Companies will contribute to those to lower their costs and reduce dependency risk. Games tend to be less successful.
Now you do have stuff like 1946 mod teams. Various other game mod teams. Some of the DCS mods are near AAA quality. Team Fusion (Not sure that is open). Etc.
But success is rare. And what would be the benefit to Hitech?
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 20, 2024, 12:11:17 PM
Why would you say that? Because I asked you a question? Sorry I ask hard questions. Was I supposed to just rubberstamp?
But success is rare. And what would be the benefit to Hitech?
No. It's because you asked me a question that chances are I would not have a good answer too because I was promoting an idea not a game. Like the good old (When did you stop beating your wife?) question.
Not sure if you caught the part where I was talking about keeping the game alive after HT was gone.
I only see two ways here. 1. Game is bought out and the tech is applied to another game and AH3 is shut down. 2. At some point HT leaves us and his coad goes with him.
They only way I see to keep the game around for our grandkids to play is to open source it at some point but it seems that I'm the only one who seems to think this so I'll stop beating the horse. :)
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 12:19:19 PM
What about a console port of AH? More money resources than PC development.
It had crossed my mind that maybe the interest in Vulkan would be to allow a path to console for AH.
Shrug. I'm not sure how good a fit for AH that is. Seems like you would have to dumb it down so much for controllers that it wouldn't been the same game. I could be wrong. Ask someone younger. I never could work those dang things. :D
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 20, 2024, 12:37:21 PM
XBox controller came with my Oculus headset. Finally found a use for it with the DCS AH-64D (front seat).
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Post by: fd ski on February 20, 2024, 12:39:06 PM
I suspect the open source community would have access to the needed skill set.
Why no discussion on open source? Is that a bad word around here? If it is the filter didn't catch it...
i work in software development, hire people etc. You'd be very hard pressed to find anyone willing to dabble in C. And once you did - they would name the price. Given HiTech's experience and knowledge, it would take months if not years for that person to understand the code they have to maintain. Idea that someone would expand upon it is a dream. Unless HT starts working on the game again, nothing will change. Unless you got couple millions to spare and don't expect a return.
Most of todays mods/expansions and such are written in things like Java or scripting languages. There are thousands of developers for those. For C - i doubt you'd find 1000 people worldwide that would have sufficient experience to understand HT's code.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 20, 2024, 12:43:09 PM
Which stick do you like better and did you buy or make you extension?
Virple's a dream compared to Warthog. Much finer control, especially for Helo's and say, Refueling. Warthog is a fine stick by any measure but very stiff compared to Virple. Only issue I've had with Virple is sometimes I have to work at getting the Trim-hat to work.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 20, 2024, 05:43:06 PM
Maybe the answer lies in ai. Seems like with all the stuff ai can do these days coding might be there at some point.
not in terms of "improving" existing AH code. AI needs a ton of source data to "learn". Given how specific this code likely is, there is literally no reference to "learn" from.
You might try to use AI to implement new game of this type, but performance might be bit of an issue.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: edge12674 on February 21, 2024, 10:07:02 AM
There's a reason they don't put PC FPS in the same arena with console FPS games. A mouse has a big advantage over a thumbstick.
Just goes to show there are always alternatives:
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 11:46:00 AM
I'm sure there are some who could learn to do air refueling with an xbox controller but I'd rather listen to a Brandon speech than do that myself.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 11:49:15 AM
When I first started flying Air Warrior in early '90 on my Amiga 2000 I used a mouse. I bought an analog stick as soon as I could. The Amiga supported both digital and analog sticks. Button on the base. I moved it to top of the stick.
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Post by: JimmyD3 on February 21, 2024, 12:32:20 PM
:rofl It amazes me how these threads meander all over the place in subject matter form the ops post. :devil
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 21, 2024, 01:08:54 PM
:rofl It amazes me how these threads meander all over the place in subject matter form the ops post. :devil
It's called conversation. They will meander.
The original OP was answered as much as it possible could be here. In the end, only HT can answer, but he was given some rules of thumb and estimates he could use to make some broad, wild guesses.
If there is more you'd like to add, then you are free to.
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Post by: JimmyD3 on February 21, 2024, 03:34:49 PM
No, just amused at the antics. :rofl
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 03:36:40 PM
Amusement is the spice of life.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 21, 2024, 03:47:20 PM
I find it amusing that a conversation is branded as "antics".
:rofl
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Post by: hazmatt on February 21, 2024, 03:52:37 PM
When I first started flying Air Warrior in early '90 on my Amiga 2000 I used a mouse. I bought an analog stick as soon as I could. The Amiga supported both digital and analog sticks. Button on the base. I moved it to top of the stick.
I started with an Amiga too.
Had to upgrade to a 486sx25 though as my framerates weren't that great.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 04:20:23 PM
The days of the Amiga were numbered then. I bought a 386 @40Mhz before dumping the Amiga. Before the Amiga I had an Atari 400, Commodore 64, Commodore 128, and Atari 1040ST.
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Post by: CptTrips on February 21, 2024, 04:43:07 PM
The days of the Amiga were numbered then. I bought a 386 @40Mhz before dumping the Amiga. Before the Amiga I had an Atari 400, Commodore 64, Commodore 128, and Atari 1040ST.
I knew some people that were Amiga fanatics. ;) They were *almost* as bad as Apple zealots. ;)
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 05:29:55 PM
The Amiga was a superior machine to the IBM clones in every way except marketing and consumer perception.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 21, 2024, 05:33:31 PM
The Amiga was a superior machine to the IBM clones in every way except marketing and consumer perception.
I have to assume so based on the loyalty.
I think it was more price and generic off the self available components though instead of proprietary components. Didn't it have it's own architecture?
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 05:39:36 PM
The O/S was capable of multi-tasking on arrival. It had a flat memory model up to at least 4MB. The video and sound chips were awesome for their day.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 05:40:55 PM
I still enjoy listening to some of the game sound music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7N6muBTKJU
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 21, 2024, 05:51:17 PM
Wait, it had a 32 bit address bus iirc, 4GB. When IBM could address 640K.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 21, 2024, 05:58:23 PM
Loved my Amiga. Switched out because of lack of games.
Yeah.
I remember when you'd got to a CompUSA (lol remember those?) the available shelf space would have to be divided between Amiga, Commadore, IBM PC, Apple. So any one platform only a fraction of the shelf space and you could find cool games for one, but Buuuuuzzzz, that isn't available for your platform.
Those were the days.
And spending $10 for a SINGLE writable CD (not even DVD). But hey, you just bought a $1200 CD-Rom writer drive so...
:rofl :rofl
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: xanax on February 21, 2024, 06:08:03 PM
I was on wrong side of that battle too. Had a fantastic HD DVD player from Toshiba.
I should post my horse racing picks.
LoL.
You could be very useful like CNBC's Jim Cramer. It's a meme now. He is a reverse indicator. Whatever he says, bet the opposite. I think someone even made an ETF that bet against anything he suggested for investment. I think it did quite well for a while. Never kept up with it but it was hilarious.
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Post by: Dadtallica on February 22, 2024, 12:43:21 AM
Raise your hand if you had a laser disc collection. :old:
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Post by: Eagler on February 22, 2024, 06:17:00 AM
CompUSA and Computer City were my favorite back in the 90's
I remember the demo setup a CompUSA had for the Microsoft combat flight sim when it 1st came out...
Now everything is online...
Eagler
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 22, 2024, 10:39:20 AM
I miss Radio Shack.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AAIK on February 22, 2024, 12:32:59 PM
The game has been played out. The IP is worth nothing though HT would want you to think otherwise. Its just his retirement plan atm.
Make your own IP and start from scratch if you want a chance at success.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Shuffler on February 22, 2024, 04:26:57 PM
I.P. is one of my favorite authors. His novel Yellow Rivers is a page turner. To search for other books simply search his full name, I. P. Freely.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: AKIron on February 22, 2024, 05:27:40 PM
Willy Makeit was pretty good too. Especially "20 Miles to the Outhouse". Collaboration with Betty Dont.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Meatwad on February 22, 2024, 07:26:53 PM
I found a Mattel Intellivision console and some games recently that actually still work.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Oldman731 on February 22, 2024, 10:14:45 PM
I found a Mattel Intellivision console and some games recently that actually still work.
I still have mine.
"B-17 Bomber." You needed to have the Intellivoice add-on (which I also still have!).
Otherwise, "Burgertime" was our favorite.
- oldman
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Shuffler on February 23, 2024, 09:02:53 AM
I still have my 1985 Compaq suitcase. It still works.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: -gg- on February 23, 2024, 10:10:53 AM
How do you guys even know what the OP is talking about? IP for sale? That doesn't mean anything to me and he didn't say anything that would even give a slight clue as to what he's talking about. Unless "I.P" has some other meaning that I'm not getting.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: CptTrips on February 23, 2024, 10:41:18 AM
How do you guys even know what the OP is talking about? IP for sale? That doesn't mean anything to me and he didn't say anything that would even give a slight clue as to what he's talking about. Unless "I.P" has some other meaning that I'm not getting.
Well, based on his wording I was assuming "Intellectual Property".
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Dadtallica on February 23, 2024, 10:42:44 AM
How do you guys even know what the OP is talking about? IP for sale? That doesn't mean anything to me and he didn't say anything that would even give a slight clue as to what he's talking about. Unless "I.P" has some other meaning that I'm not getting.
I read it as the intellectual property that is AH. The coad and the rest.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: -gg- on February 23, 2024, 11:08:09 AM
I mean, he didn't even mention anything about AH and he hasn't been back since.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: hazmatt on February 23, 2024, 11:09:22 AM
He is Challenger's younger brother. I don't think he is as active as some. He came to notify when he was taking over Challengers sound files. That's when I first saw him so he is not a bot.
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Post by: AKIron on February 23, 2024, 11:30:42 AM
Intellectual Property.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Dadtallica on February 23, 2024, 11:45:16 AM
He is Challenger's younger brother. I don't think he is as active as some. He came to notify when he was taking over Challengers sound files. That's when I first saw him so he is not a bot.
I sure wish those could be fixed they are so good!
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: Shuffler on February 23, 2024, 02:36:08 PM
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Post by: AKIron on February 23, 2024, 10:22:38 PM
Been in IT a long time. Scammers can be pretty sophisticated. Never let your guard down.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: IntelDan on February 29, 2024, 12:57:37 PM
I was just thinking about expanding AH3 is all, so your assumption of what I meant by I.P. is correct. I'm a Georgia Teach grad that started and then sold three software startups, I 'COADed' for SAP for years and now I patch and repair SOCOM firmware/software for Lockheed. I know AH3 has limitations with client numbers in close proximity, but the way the airplanes interact at all is amazing. I would love to expand upon this work, but I don't want to ask HTC to do anything they don't consider best for their users. I just thought it might be good to offer a future to AH3 that it may, or may not already have. After 6 pages it seems like this is as far as it goes.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: The Fugitive on February 29, 2024, 02:54:49 PM
I was just thinking about expanding AH3 is all, so your assumption of what I meant by I.P. is correct. I'm a Georgia Teach grad that started and then sold three software startups, I 'COADed' for SAP for years and now I patch and repair SOCOM firmware/software for Lockheed. I know AH3 has limitations with client numbers in close proximity, but the way the airplanes interact at all is amazing. I would love to expand upon this work, but I don't want to ask HTC to do anything they don't consider best for their users. I just thought it might be good to offer a future to AH3 that it may, or may not already have. After 6 pages it seems like this is as far as it goes.
Hitech is the only guy at the company these days. If you have a thought/idea, give him a call. At least you'll have a good answer instead of what passes for one on the boards.
Title: Re: I.P. for sale?
Post by: sparky127 on March 06, 2024, 08:11:26 AM