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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: popeye on July 09, 2021, 09:59:57 AM
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I'd like to see the M3 ENY lowered from the current value of 40. Maybe an ENY of 20 for the M3 to (literally) slow down the horde. We could still use the SdKfz 251 for troops and supplies, it would just be slower -- 33mph vs. 49mph.
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:aok
I like this idea!!!
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Yep +1.
I logged on the other day and saw 22 Bishops, 6 Knights, and 3 Rooks. Immediately logged out. To think that they could still just take M3's all willy nilly is sad indeed.
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-1 The M3 is used for other things as well not just resupping or troops. Don't forget the 75mm cannon.
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-1 The M3 is used for other things as well not just resupping or troops. Don't forget the 75mm cannon.
This happens almost never.
+1 on the original idea.
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+1 if it will slow the hoard a bit
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+1
More goons!
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-1 The M3 is used for other things as well not just resupping or troops. Don't forget the 75mm cannon.
Separate the M3's. BAM! Problem solved. The Troop/Supply variant can get slapped with ENY 20 while the 75mm variant can keep the ENY 40.
Personally, I'd say hit the Troop/Supply variant of the M3 with an ENY of 15 if things are as gnarly as they seem.
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+1
More goons!
I have a feeling the SdKfz would still be favored over the goon wherever possible because of its ability to hide, while the goon badly suffers from AH's AWACS dar.
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Oh for sure! Goons takes are incredibly hard when there's just a few dedicated defenders
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+1 :aok
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Give the skudwagen 11 troops!
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Give the skudwagen 11 troops!
+1
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Give the skudwagen 11 troops!
Cant find it now, but Hitech said if he changed how many troops could be carried he would change how many troops it would take to capture. So your request if granted would raise the number of troops to capture a field to 11.
Wouldnt help any would it?
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What about just raising the goon count from 10 to 20 needed to take a base?
Say 20 for smaller bases and 30 for the largest ones.
That should slow base capturing :)
Eagler
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This happens almost never.
+1 on the original idea.
Rubbish, I take the 75mm out all the time, it's an awesome ambush vehicle, even landed a 10 kill streak a month or two back.
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What about just raising the goon count from 10 to 20 needed to take a base?
Say 20 for smaller bases and 30 for the largest ones.
That should slow base capturing :)
Eagler
and maps will last forever.
semp
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Rubbish, I take the 75mm out all the time
That doesn't negate my point.
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Cant find it now, but Hitech said if he changed how many troops could be carried he would change how many troops it would take to capture. So your request if granted would raise the number of troops to capture a field to 11.
Wouldnt help any would it?
The game has so.many GVs that could have a positive impact and lead to more varied game play.
I've probably seen 3 skudwagens in a year. Instead of a hangar sitter how about giving them the extra troop to use as a dummy or diversion. Could lead to better game play.
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and maps will last forever.
semp
A countdown clock for each map that when it hits zero whatever country is ahead wins that map and a new one is spawned
That would change strategies I would think
Eagler
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M3's are like chicken fries! You just can't eat enough of them. :aok
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This happens almost never.
Wow. I must be an outlier.
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Wow. I must be an outlier.
You are.
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instead of changing the ENY value of the M-3 which carries supplies, troops, or a Howitzer gun on top...........how 'bout disabling all tanks and making only the M-8 available. :D
Now that might slow down the horde :banana: :banana: :banana:
:salute
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The 33mph or less horde :rofl
The exception being the M18, but they’re very easy to take down unless .50cal is commanding it.
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I'd like to see the M3 ENY lowered from the current value of 40. Maybe an ENY of 20 for the M3 to (literally) slow down the horde. We could still use the SdKfz 251 for troops and supplies, it would just be slower -- 33mph vs. 49mph.
If you do a search you'll see I've suggested this previously. It is more of an apple vs an orange comparison, really.
The thing is though the German SdKfz 251 has the "wurfkorper" rockets, which are awesome once you figure out the ranges, against towns. You can carry six of the rockets (285 lbs of dmg), which is good for a number of town buildings, and carry the 10 troops. Max speed is 33 mph.
The M3 when in transport mode can carry 10 troops and have the single .50 cal for defense. It can also take down at least 1 building with that same gun. Max speed is 49 mph (30% faster than the 251).
So, comparing transporting capabilities I say the M3 has the definite advantage that to speed. I'm not sure if it is because of the sloped armor or what but I tend to believe that the 251 survives longer against MG fire (armor thickness difference is negligible). Against cannons and ordnance there is no difference.
Now, bring in the 2nd role of each vehicle and the M3 takes the advantage: the 75mm cannon is far more efficient that the 251's 28cm rockets. If you can figure out the 251's Wurfkorper rockets you can carry 4 reloads an have fun in a town in a short manner
Basic stats:
Speed: M3 49mph vs 251 33mph
GV Supps: M3 (8) vs 251 (4)
Troops: M3 (10) vs 251 (10)
Base Supps: M3 (1) vs 251 (1)
Guns: M3 (1 .50 cal HMG) vs 251 (2 8mm MG's NOT linked), and (6) 28cm wurfkorper rockets
Armor: very similar
Ultimately, I do think the M3 is more valuable for its speed. The combat value of either is negligible. If the M3 ENY's were to be changed to 35 or even 30, it wouldn't change a thing in the game. So..... I don't see HTC changing this. Good luck.
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What about just raising the goon count from 10 to 20 needed to take a base?
Say 20 for smaller bases and 30 for the largest ones.
That should slow base capturing :)
Eagler
The horde would quit playing and there would be no one to cherry pick/vulch