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Title: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 02, 2022, 12:10:13 PM
I've got a clean slate !!
But I suck after 3 tours in.
Tour #33 K/D 2.79 Kills per sortie 1.52 K/T 7.56 Hit percentage 4.57
Tour #267 K/D .25 Kills per sortie .19 K/T 1.30 Hit percentage 1.04
THAT IS SERIOUS SUCKAGE Noted NO improvement from tour #266
I'm at a loss. Do the pilot thingy and manage to get to D400 but always in a hard flat turn. rarely get hits. If I got hits anytime I was in range my kills would be MUCH higher.
If it wasn't for the enjoyment of doing the pilot thing I'd be throwing my stick against the wall. And a whole lot of assists..
It is a new tour.
Be there for me...
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: FLS on June 02, 2022, 01:28:28 PM
First thing is try a wired connection if you are using wifi. See if that improves your hit %.
What aircraft and what is your convergence set to?
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 02, 2022, 02:32:48 PM
Checking and have zero lost packets solid 60 on ping. Convergience 300
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Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 03:07:03 AM
Let's see a video of your flying/shooting. Aerial gunnery is not a static art form.
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Post by: morfiend on June 03, 2022, 07:40:14 AM
There are several variables with hit%,what mode do you usually fly in? If fighter mode and you straife buildings it works against you as it’s considered a miss,in attack mode shooting building will increase the hit%.
I once had a 35% hit ratio, all I did was fly in attack mode and shoot up a town!. Some time back Lusche posted an average of all the hit% and it was just around 1%.
So as I said there are many variables and that includes the mode,plane types and guns used amount other things.
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Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 07:44:32 AM
...and psychological. That's a big factor.
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Post by: morfiend on June 03, 2022, 09:05:58 AM
Undoubtably it’s another of the variables but unfortunately it’s sort of the eye of the beholder and not something I’m qualified to comment on.
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Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 03, 2022, 10:04:13 AM
I have to figure out how to post a film. Never done that before. I only have one film :rofl
A vast majority of my shots are in a high G flat turn after the con breaks. I'm able to get inside his turn for the shots. But they are high G so the lead is a guessing game under my nose.
I'm going to make it a point to forgo those shots this tour because they rarely hit. When I get shots not in the high G realm I will only take those and see if there is improvement. Follow in the high G turn but wait for a reverse or a straightening of the cons turn. I dont know what else to try.
Have the most success in a yak. I'm too yippy for 50's plane. I've relocated my stick to smooth out my Yips with some success. Next is valuim...
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: FLS on June 03, 2022, 11:36:33 AM
Spend some time in the training arena with a buddy or a trainer and the LCGS turned on so you can see where you have to put the gunsight for the high G shots. Ctrl-Tab to turn it on, Tab to select target.
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Post by: nopoop on June 03, 2022, 11:45:50 AM
My other thought is when closing in, anticipate the break and perform a high yo-yo to cut the corner of the break. That way to stay fast.
Chopping speed in most cases is a death sentence from other cons..
Love to hitch a ride with someone that knows what they are doing :D
Don't know if that option can still be done in game, and whether you see the pilot views.
I have stuff to work on.
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 01:59:26 PM
A vast majority of my shots are in a high G flat turn after the con breaks. I'm able to get inside his turn for the shots. But they are high G so the lead is a guessing game under my nose.
If you have enough foresight you can modify this by turning earlier and then relaxing your turn before 'strafing-a-point-in-space'. Increases the density of shot instead of spraying it around. Also tiny bursts are good practice and often bring great results. Have a go at only squirting out 5-7 cannon rounds say. If they're well-placed it's enough.
Also depends on the plane-armament combination. Some are well matched and some not.
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Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2yFy8-gfL0
This is me flying / shooting at 24-seconds. We may not have firearms where I live. I always found the 30-mm the easiest perhaps because I did archery and it feels like an arrow when it flies. I think the late model 109s and their armament well-matched.
Oh the video formatting tool doesn't work?
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 03, 2022, 02:44:02 PM
Thanks for all the advice, keep it coming.
I need to work on short bursts.
Most all break in the same direction so it's the timing I suck at. That I always come in hot. As the first shots are coming on a boom.
I find that those that kill me are camped on my six instead of keeping their speed. When I force an overshoot, someone else takes me out.
Nice film. My other problem is buck fever... which you obviously don't have lol
Gonna be a long tour getting out on what I'm doing and to what really works.
Because what I'm doing doesn't..
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 03, 2022, 02:58:40 PM
Nice film. My other problem is buck fever... which you obviously don't have lol
I think you have attached an anxiety of outcome to your shooting and given the mind and body are one thing and not two your body facilitates the belief by twitching when you shoot. Like I suggested once, practice lining up your shots and then close your eyes. Then watch the film afterwards. If the twitching is gone then that was it.
Science. AND art. :banana:
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Post by: Eagler on June 03, 2022, 03:00:13 PM
Record your fights and rewatch them for clues
Also look at other fights with more experience pilots to figure out how they do it
Eagler
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Post by: The Fugitive on June 03, 2022, 03:44:52 PM
Eagler sent me a film of him flying in MNM in aG2. He got 11. I watch it two or three times before I go and it really helps me with my aim
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 03, 2022, 03:56:47 PM
Love to see it !!
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Post by: Oldman731 on June 03, 2022, 10:45:10 PM
If it wasn't for the enjoyment of doing the pilot thing I'd be throwing my stick against the wall. And a whole lot of assists..
It is a new tour.
Be there for me...
nopoop, I feel your pain. I came over to AH from WBs and found out I didn't anything about acm or fighter ops. I'm slowly building my skill set and my kills are slowly increasing. I'm hell in a bomber, mind you, but below average in a fighter and absolute crap in a vehicle.
Some of us were discussing this in game yesterday. For me, just playing the game is an end unto itself. I don't care what other teams do. I like flying with guys like McGavin and Maniac and leper, Zanth, and working cooperatively with them, but I also like just popping of to resupply strats or whichever base needs it the most.
And I would like to learn how to post AH films, too.
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 04, 2022, 10:42:08 AM
When I was in WB I took a training class with Steve on reversals. The classic Drex reversal and our homework was to enter any fight low. And then work on the reverse. I got "ok" at it but could never learn the views needed on the pass through. So I would get the con to pass through but couldn't follow the views to put his plane in my sights when he reached the front view. In that reverse you had to change views as he passed by you and adjust your flight path to put him in your sights.
We'd hitch a ride with Steve to watch it unfold. He'd have each of us attack. He killed us all, one at a time. I learned alot but never that view thing. But I worked it furballing every day. Finally one day I killed two where they had all the cards.
I just want to get back there..
Right now I'm the one getting killed when I have all the cards :D
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: FLS on June 04, 2022, 11:16:31 AM
Try rolling to keep the bandit in your up/fwd, up, and up/rear views. That will put you in the same plane of maneuver. Mind the ground.
You want to end up pointing ahead of the bandit for your shot and the common mistake is to always try lead pursuit even when you don't have enough radial G available to get the shot angle. Point yourself behind the bandit in lag pursuit and consider out of plane maneuvering to improve your position before you pull lead pursuit for the shot.
When you merge you turn in front of the bandit because starting the turn early finishes the turn early. Then you fly behind the bandit for position, then in front of the bandit for the shot. Fly the same plane as the bandit so you see how the geometry works.
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Post by: Eagler on June 04, 2022, 11:29:18 AM
Both trackir and vr work great with joystick views in AH
With vr the only programmed views I use are straight up and dead 6
VR is the best way to get better fast IMO
Eagler
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 04, 2022, 01:51:39 PM
Are you talking about lead-turning in a co-e 12-12 merge?
That would be one example but any merge requiring a turn would benefit from turning early rather than late. If the bandit also turns early you at least turn together. Just don't turn too early. Also, take into account different aircraft turn rates and energy states. Practicing 1v1 co-E same aircraft is the best way to start learning the timing of the merge.
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Post by: nrshida on June 04, 2022, 03:34:56 PM
Important to mention that, too early = instamt death.
This is the problem when trying to discuss bfm/acm with words. If I was more comp wavy I’d post a nice graph showing positions,flight paths etc. and since I lost most my AH stuff in the great crash of 2018, comp fried, I can’t even post a link without doing a bunch of research.
ATM I have too many irons in the fire but if I get bored and look around I’ll get some links to show or give an idea of what I mean.
https://vnfawing.com/VNFAWING-BFM-Intro-2.htm Here a primer that I have handy.
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Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 04, 2022, 04:05:57 PM
Jets suck and blow :banana:
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 04, 2022, 05:01:18 PM
I made this for nopoop and others who want to upload films and screenshots:
Important to mention that, too early = instamt death.
The most important thing is to practice merges in a controlled manner that teaches you proper timing. Reading about ACM and watching videos will be more useful when you have a foundation of practical experience to provide context.
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Post by: nopoop on June 04, 2022, 06:21:59 PM
Great suff !!!
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 05, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
None of which explains what Fariz can do with a Yak 3 ..
My God man... :eek:
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 05, 2022, 12:47:21 PM
None of which explains what Fariz can do with a Yak 3 ..
Fariz is an extremely disciplined and skilled BnZer (a subset of energy-fighting) who is adept at reading the relative energy states and making decisions accordingly. If he is not egressing to build or escape, he is attacking with an energy advantage and that's like getting your fingers pinched in a lever. Only way to nail him is to trap him, dangling some leg so-to-speak. He is of course a very good shot :banana:
The most important thing is to practice merges in a controlled manner that teaches you proper timing.
I must do some duelling sometime and try to improve. It's just not good enough :rofl
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 05, 2022, 01:22:04 PM
I came upon Fariz in a yak 3 co alt while flying a Yak 3. My speed above 310. I attempted lateral seperation with a hard slice back. Two turns later he was on my six. I dumped throttle trying for an overshoot via scissors. Down to just above stall speed as he camped on my six and blew me out of the sky lol.
The other pilot that OWNS ME is The Judge. Doesn't matter if I have all the cards, the smash, the altitude, He gets me every time. It's a daily ritual.. I've have at least learned to recognize when it is a rope. multiple times I have had the smash to follow him up but he can float that D9 forever at the top, put a couple cannon rounds in me after I fall out. I don't know how he keeps that D9 so fast...all the time
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 05, 2022, 01:29:53 PM
I came upon Fariz in a yak 3 co alt while flying a Yak 3. My speed above 310. I attempted lateral seperation with a hard slice back. Two turns later he was on my six. I dumped throttle trying for an overshoot via scissors. Down to just above stall speed as he camped on my six and blew me out of the sky lol.
The other pilot that OWNS ME is The Judge. Doesn't matter if I have all the cards, the smash, the altitude, He gets me every time. It's a daily ritual.. I've have at least learned to recognize when it is a rope. multiple times I have had the smash to follow him up but he can float that D9 forever at the top, put a couple cannon rounds in me after I fall out. I don't know how he keeps that D9 so fast...all the time
Well, you can post some films now! There will likely be lots of advice :banana:
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 05, 2022, 01:59:13 PM
Workin on the film thing :cheers:
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: FLS on June 06, 2022, 07:16:09 AM
Also look at other fights with more experience pilots to figure out how they do it
Eagler
THIS BAR NONE+
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 07, 2022, 03:20:50 AM
Heya nopoop,
I am willing to meet up with you in the Training Arena, and helping you find out what you are having trouble with
If you would like...I will even work on showing you several different types of merge techniques, etc...
On another note: I have always been under the impression that we could attach .ahf Aces High films in this particular forum for Training and Reviewing!
Is that not possible anymore?
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nrshida on June 07, 2022, 10:37:53 AM
TC I'd love to. Take me 15 minutes to calm down. Always takes some to calm my nerves :D
Love to do it next week. I'm retired, west coast so a time would be at your convenience.
In the mean time I will try to hit Alt R for films. Had a few yesterday but of course forgot to film...
Thanks !!
That will work, I am retired as well, we'll figure out a time to meet up in the Training Arena 👍
TC
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Post by: Eagler on June 07, 2022, 01:13:05 PM
You can set it up to film every sortie...then decide after to save or delete it
I am in ma most nights between 8 an 9 pm eastern
Ping me early if you see me in there and we can duel in match play for practice
Eagler
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: nopoop on June 07, 2022, 01:26:00 PM
Will do Eagler. Need to learn to edit the fluff out of recordings down to the fights
Title: Re: It's a new tour but I suck..
Post by: FLS on June 07, 2022, 06:22:46 PM
Now that there is a HUD in AH you can set it to easily see your speed and G, which is your turn performance. Comparing speed and G in different aircraft shows you the critical turn performance differences.