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Has there been any problems with windows 10 and Aces High? I'm thinking about loading it, but what to wait to see if there are any problems first.
Thanks,
Goat
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None that I am aware of.
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You may lose your sound or something. Look for W10 drivers before you upgrade. So far I have found SLI is broken, Sound Blaster Z, Zx, ZxR don't work, and some programs disappear from the apps list without warning.
I'm using W10 Pro x64.
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Thanks for the replies.
Goat
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squady loaded it and crashed his computer. I don't have any details, but well, take it for what its worth.
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W10 would not load on an older computer because the video processor manufacturer had not updated the driver for w10. The good news was the problem was identified up front on the video driver by w10.
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Just FYI. This is an update and in the history of Microsoft they have never shipped an update for an operating system which has not caused problems.
Free or not, there is no way I am doing this.
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I just got my new PC last month. Came with the free upgrade to W10. No way!!! W8.1 is doing fine for now. Wait until they work out ALL of the bugs first...
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Getting a lot of bug reports which have nothing to do with the game. Things are being broken at a rampant rate.
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Thanks for the replies, think I'll wait a while.
Goat
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Okay, Maxed out anti-aliasing. Works like a charm now.
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I've had no problems with W10, I'll keep you guys informed if I do!!! :cheers:
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Glad to hear this now ill keep 8.1 for a while lol i need a new GPU before i get W10. my 720 hates the alpha
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No, the 720 only has a single 64bit data path. It doesn't have the bandwidth.
GDDR3
BW - 14.4 Gbyte sec
GDDR5
BW - 40 Gbyte sec
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I upgraded. Everything ok except CH Pro pedals. They show as being connected in Windows settings but no functions work in the game and I haven't found a test within windows. Logitech 3D pro is fine.
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I upgraded. Everything ok except CH Pro pedals. They show as being connected in Windows settings but no functions work in the game and I haven't found a test within windows. Logitech 3D pro is fine.
Just changed to a different USB port and it works fine. All's well now. Good Job!
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Okay, Maxed out anti-aliasing. Works like a charm now.
What does anti-aliasing do? Please type real simple like... I seriously don't know what it is...
Thanks!
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up graded to windows 10 went back to windows 7 . only reason i went back was making videos using windows movie maker . when i capture using fraps i get error code ERROR 0xC946002c telling me its corrupt or codec error in movie maker.
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What does anti-aliasing do? Please type real simple like... I seriously don't know what it is...
Thanks!
Pixels are squares, so if you try to make a cured line with pixels you get a jagged/sawtooth line. Adding anti-aliasing draws the line/curve and overlays them off set a bit. So in stead of having this big step from pixel to pixel the over lays create and bunch of little steps. More anti-aliasing means more steps to cover the same area. The reason it takes more horse power to add anti-aliasing is because the video must draw more over lapping pictures for each frame.
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up graded to windows 10 went back to windows 7 . only reason i went back was making videos using windows movie maker . when i capture using fraps i get error code ERROR 0xC946002c telling me its corrupt or codec error in movie maker.
You might try something like VSDC, which is also free. I use Premiere so I can't really rate/review VSDC, but I know people claim it is similar to professional editing programs. It's not without issues, but might get you beyond the update.
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You might try something like VSDC, which is also free. I use Premiere so I can't really rate/review VSDC, but I know people claim it is similar to professional editing programs. It's not without issues, but might get you beyond the update.
+1 For Premiere
Coogan
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Just FYI. This is an update and in the history of Microsoft they have never shipped an update for an operating system which has not caused problems.
Free or not, there is no way I am doing this.
25 years in the IT business speaking here folks, and Skuzzy is right on target. Instead of jumping onto the "bleeding edge" do yourselves a favor and wait. Give the developers and drivers makers time to figure out the bugs so you don't have to.
I tend to wait until the first service pack is released (although usually in MS land stability is ultimately achieved in the 3rd service pack).
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I tend to wait until the first service pack is released (although usually in MS land stability is ultimately achieved in the Enterprise level products).
Fixed.
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I upgraded to Windows 10 a few days ago. I did the upgrade onto Windows 7, then did a clean install after testing for a while.
I'm really liking it so far. All of my games play as good as ever. No degradation of any kind that I see.
I like the fact that we can change the size of the quick-start menu icons.
Ok, I'm off to see if I can get Cortana to say some bad words. :bolt:
Coogan
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From reading at MS, this upgrade is the only way to get it for free against your current qualifying license. And the only way to get a full install CD is to first upgrade and then run the full install DVD maker app. If you don't take this free upgrade now, later do we have to pay for a full install CD?
So if I want the free upgrade I have to go through this so I will be able to create an install CD, then have to format and reinstall Win7...really dumb Microsoft...just really frikkin dumb.
And If I go this route to get the free upgrade to create the full install CD, will my later on install of Win10 say around the time sp1 is released accept my current valid Win7 license?
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I suppose the only safe way to test the 10 upgrade and run the full install DVD maker app would be to get another hard disk and clone the entire system on it. That would ensure that if something goes wrong there'd always be an unmodified version of the current system on the other disk.
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for all of you who cant wait to try windows 10. here is a way you can get it in both versions
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/clean-install-windows-10/?ftag=CAD32c237d
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for all of you who cant wait to try windows 10. here is a way you can get it in both versions
http://www.cnet.com/how-to/clean-install-windows-10/?ftag=CAD32c237d
Odds are pretty good they will have screwed up Win11 and be releasing Win12 by the time Im ready to "upgrade". :P
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Win10 works great (took the risk to migrate from a charged Win7 installation) except that I had to spend an hour to fix a privilege problem with the start menu, until I find the right hotfix to install.
Other than that both my sound cards have no drivers out just yet, and the windows drivers do not deliver a good sound. I'll have to use a USB logitech G35 headset which doesn't work for now, but does have a driver lol
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So are we praising Win10 because with all of it's buggyness it's easy to fix for a minority of computer users or because it's new?
I thought Microsoft's whole point of this version was real ease of installation and use at last. This is sounding like all of the past MS new and improved promises of this OS is the OS of all OS because we have gotten it right this time. And all I'm reading in here and on the Internet is about problems and everyone's personal work arounds. So far, Win7 was less problematical.
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When Windows 7 was released it was very buggy. It took a while to get it smoothed out.
It is the nature of the beast. Every new release, from Microsoft, has a ton of bugs. Give it six to twelve months and it will get pretty stable.
Windows 10 will never find its way onto any of my personal computers, until Microsoft defines what they mean by a "service" business. At that point, I will decide.
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So are we praising Win10 because with all of it's buggyness it's easy to fix for a minority of computer users or because it's new?
I thought Microsoft's whole point of this version was real ease of installation and use at last. This is sounding like all of the past MS new and improved promises of this OS is the OS of all OS because we have gotten it right this time. And all I'm reading in here and on the Internet is about problems and everyone's personal work arounds. So far, Win7 was less problematical.
No problems here...
Coogan
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I'm doing the download to setup a thumb drive as the install media. Might try a clean install on a spare drive to see what it is about, then swap drives back to Win7.
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No problems here...
Coogan
That just means you have not run into the problems that exist, yet. Microsoft is getting some panic updates together. Expect updates within the next 48 hours.
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Skuzzy,
Windows 10 will never find its way onto any of my personal computers, until Microsoft defines what they mean by a "service" business.
I suspect it means, "Pay to Play", with no more free updates to the OS. I'm just guessing though.
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I'm doing the download to setup a thumb drive as the install media. Might try a clean install on a spare drive to see what it is about, then swap drives back to Win7.
That's what I did. Well I did the upgrade over top of Windows 7, so the OS would be activated. Then after everything seemed to be working well I downloaded Windows 10
to a thumb drive and did my clean install from that.
Coogan
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That just means you have not run into the problems that exist, yet. Microsoft is getting some panic updates together. Expect updates within the next 48 hours.
I mainly use my rig for gaming and video editing. I haven't seen any issues 'yet' :uhoh
Hopefully the updates won't bugger things up...
Coogan
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I've got some calls so far about problems with W10. I've done two rollbacks and instructed a third one. The first one had a black screen, possibly caused by hibernation. Anyway, she wanted her 7 back. The second one flashed the desktop icons for about 15 minutes after every boot until it settled. The third had some networking issues, IIRC.
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my 2 cents;
In amongst everything that has been going on at home I found a spare couple of hours and I too took the plunge. I had everything backed up thanks to all the scaremongering talk around here.
It upgraded everything fine with all files and folders, I do need to tweak my controller mappings in game but booted up the open Alpha to see if it had any negatives on performance and I didn't notice any differences in the short time I had to test. Sound worked ok on my old creative SB card.
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I upgraded my two computers, a 6 yr old laptop and my desktop gamer, from 7 to 10. After some anomalies in the game like CTD which never happened before I reset the gamer to W7. I use the laptop for other purposes so don't mind using it as a guinea pig for 10. The reset was painless with just 15 updates to install after the switch back. The only drawback is the pop up for W10 download when I boot up. I can live with that,.
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I'm considering switching to W10. My desktop was shipped with W8 and it (w8) is a steaming pile of poo. I absolutely HATE it. Friday, just before FSO, something in the system got corrupted and my system hangs every minute or two. It appears to be trying to download a patch to W8 and keeps failing. I'm a computer idiot so everything I've tried has failed to this point. I was going to buy W7 and install it but 10 appears to be a step between (not as good as 7 but an improvement over 8) and the download is still free.
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I have downloaded 3 copys/upgrades to Win 10 Pro, and have or am really considering instead of going the upgrade-then redo for a full complete install of windows 10 Pro to go the windows 10 Enterprise route....this way I will have control over the windows automatic updates, which one has no control over if they are using windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Pro, as I understand all the reading up on Windows 10 I have been doing.....
What are your thoughts on this regarding using Windows 10 Enterprise verses using Win 10 Pro, Skuzzy/ Chalenge/ Bizman / bustr?
I will be using a separate HD or SSD for the Win 10 install, no partitioning or dual/multi OS booting with Win 10 , I can use my BIOS boot manager ( F8 or F11 ) to manually boot in to Win 10.... is my thinking..... same way I am booting into Win 8.1 Pro now.. I decided to not use dual or multi boot with Win 8.1 Pro the same way...... after seeing how win 8.1 Pro added 2 extra folders to my other Hard Drives or partitioned HD's that was holding 2 or 3 different OS installations on them the first time I installed a copy on one of my 2 main computers....
TC
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I have no other experience than what I've read and seen at customer's who all have had the Home version.
Wikipedia has a nice chart about features (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions#Comparison_chart) in different versions. It looks like starting from Pro Windows Update for Business would be available, supposedly allowing to decide what to update and when. Then again, this article makes me wonder: http://www.zdnet.com/article/whatever-happened-to-microsofts-windows-update-for-business/ (http://www.zdnet.com/article/whatever-happened-to-microsofts-windows-update-for-business/).
Also, according to the chart, the Enterprise version supports volume licensing only. Do you qualify for that?
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my last volume licensing I did was back in 2010, er was current up through 2010.....
I would have to check into it again and see if I am able to buy in volume....
the last time I bought in volume was 100 copies/keys for Win 7 Ult. 64bit ( only have 2 or 3 copies left )..... that was like 9 months after Windows 7 went live/public after the beta testing
was just/am currently reading an article over at Geek to, about Microsoft not being on top of the updates for business / enterprise currently (edit: seems your zdnet linked article is about the same as the one at Geek To )
seems to be a file cabinet's worth full of stuff I am finding to not like about this new Windows 10
thanks for your input
TC
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After verifying I have to first do the in place upgrade to take advantage of the free upgrade against my license. Then roll back to Win7 after creating a full install USB drive for Win10. Then I can full Win10 install against my license later. I'm miffed.......
It also sounds like catching the flu for all the problems Microsoft has not accounted for. Some guys don't get sick each year, some only a little bit sick and some end up in ICU. And is there an end of the grace period in which I would have to put Win10 back on my PC for my Win7 license to still be valid?
TC, be careful that the only way your enterprise licensing will be valid is you have to buy Win10 full price or get stuck having to upgrade in place all 100, scrub and redo a full install. I remember one company I worked at, we had to have a licensing specialist assist us on where we really stood after the company underwriter wouldn't go forward with 1999 until we were square with Microsoft. Boy were we off even though we followed all of the directions from Microsoft. We had licenses laying around that ended up being worthless because of how we were not purchasing our server and client upgrades when we rapidly expanded from 125 personnel to 1200 and we suddenly had over 100 servers around the country. At least all of the licenses got thrown in a pile in the same drawer in stead of in the garbage.
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You can't just use a key retrieval tool and reinstall when you like? That suggestion has been on the web for weeks already.
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You can't just use a key retrieval tool and reinstall when you like? That suggestion has been on the web for weeks already.
I've read a few different articles about that Chalenge, but one still has to update their windows 7 or 8, to retrieve the key...also as MS is saying the update is tied to the specific computer hardware/build, one can still change major components and still activate their windows 10, going off of what I've been reading...
bustr, yes I would have to buy any copies of win 10 enterprise, out right.... As for those 100 volume copies of win7 ult. x64, 38 copies went to where I worked before I was doctor forced into disability/retirement...the rest of the copies went to computers I built or upgraded for my family members and friends and to several AH members where I built and gave computers to them so they could keep playing, or play the game with better graphics and frame rate, etc...
Thank you all for your input and replys
TC
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I believe it is still tied to the motherboard, based on my own experience. You can change anything else, many times even, but change that the first time and it's time to reactivate, or buy a new license.
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I believe it is still tied to the motherboard, based on my own experience. You can change anything else, many times even, but change that the first time and it's time to reactivate, or buy a new license.
Don't know about 10, but I've successfully changed motherboards on OEM computers without no problems in reactivating. Our local Fujitsu service also had to rely on regular motherboards after the Fujitsu stock had run out of the original spare part. Again, this was way before we even thought about 10.
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I'm not saying it will cause an issue with activation, but that you will have to reactivate. I suspect that the product key is actually embedded into the BIOS/EFI non-volatile ram, so if your HD does not find it then it triggers the reactivation routine. After so many times MS will require you to call in for reactivation, or to purchase a new product key.
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I'm not saying it will cause an issue with activation, but that you will have to reactivate. I suspect that the product key is actually embedded into the BIOS/EFI non-volatile ram, so if your HD does not find it then it triggers the reactivation routine. After so many times MS will require you to call in for reactivation, or to purchase a new product key.
I had to call in after changing my motherboard. It was all automated though. Things went smoothly.
Coogan
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I understand the MS approach to pushing a free Windows version is because they cannot push updates to a single model if so many people are stuck in a years old OS. The problem I have with the new approach is not that they are 'spying' on us, but that they do not tell you when they are pushing an update. So, if you are doing something that is really intense on your system and the OS crashes, for instance, the update that is getting pushed could very well break and it may be weeks before it is corrected. How is that better? Also, MS seems to prefer the OS in a faux pristine state during update, which has meant that services that I turned off are on again, SLI is off again, and even worse the antivirus program I prefer can lose functionality (gamer mode turns off right in the middle of a game). This is hardly an improvement. I might be tempted to say it is still smoother than W7 was, but there are times when it acts like the brat from down the street.
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Thank you for sharing your experience based knowledge, Chalenge. That verifies my worst fears to be true. And alike you, even though I've only seen glimpses of 10, the smoothness is tempting.
BTW have you noticed any major differences between the Windows Update for 10 and the latest WHQL ones provided by the hardware manufacturers? I'm referring to the case where WinUpdate wanted to 'update' the latest WHQL Nvidia Quattro driver to an older one, causing the entire video system only be capable to VGA - a major issue for a CAD reliant entrepreneur!
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I have not seen that since the early Windows 7 days with the Quadro 3500. MS does push their own video driver even after you update to the latest Nvidia version. If you allow MS to push theirs, then you will also install the new Nvidia driver (because NCP still reports the old driver). Once you get that updated then MS pushes their driver again. Why? I got to thinking it might be that there is something marked 'read only' on my system, but so far I cannot find anything on the net about what is causing it.
EDIT: Just found where the Quadro 3500 was not supported when Windows 10 launched either. Probably it is because the cards is so old that Nvidia no longer produces new drivers. It is interesting that it had problems coming in and going out.
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I loaded Windows 10 with no issues. In fact it is now running the game better than my Windows 7, 64bit ever did. The one issue I have had is that the Alt + Tab sometimes will not take me to desktop.
It did install drivers for my onboard sound. I turned that off.
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I loaded Windows 10 with no issues. In fact it is now running the game better than my Windows 7, 64bit ever did. The one issue I have had is that the Alt + Tab sometimes will not take me to desktop.
It did install drivers for my onboard sound. I turned that off.
Oh Lord, don't tell anyone Windows 10 actually works.
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q95/soulfood78/1090406-1188443994-1042357omgonoz.gif) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/soulfood78/media/1090406-1188443994-1042357omgonoz.gif.html)
Some people are a little concerned about it...
lmao
Coogan
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So far I've rolled back to 7/8 about half a dozen times, two customers having been totally happy with 10. Somehow the latter had managed to get rid of the Start menu, though, having the Start screen instead. And in the Task Bar options there was no tab for the Start menu... A quick search revealed it's a bug with no simple solution.
So, 10 actually works but getting it to work on your rig can be compared to winning in a lottery. Some win big, the majority of winners get zilch.
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Loaded Win10 onto a test machine, upgraded from Win7 - made sure I had valid drivers for network card, video card. No issues so far. Everything that was working before is working now (including some legacy software). Turned off all the "report back" stuff I could - guess we'll see what it reports back (got monitoring running on my unix firewall - should be interesting)
Wurz
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Loaded Win10 onto a test machine, upgraded from Win7 - made sure I had valid drivers for network card, video card. No issues so far. Everything that was working before is working now (including some legacy software). Turned off all the "report back" stuff I could - guess we'll see what it reports back (got monitoring running on my unix firewall - should be interesting)
Wurz
I think you'll be able to tell if it is still talking to MS servers, but not what it's saying, because I think it's sent encrypted (at least that's what the article I read said).
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True 715, not really worried by the content, more the data size, frequency etc that I'm interested in. Just a test machine, I dont do much with it, no banking, gaming etc, usually just use it when I'm in the mood to record something music wise - so no big deals.
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I just installed windows 10. It looks ok. The old Microsoft sidewinder 2 works in the regular aces high but does not show in the Alpha Aces High, where it did with Win7..
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If the game does not show the device, then the operating system is not recognizing the device.