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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sabre on August 29, 2013, 03:05:01 PM
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...personal bug-out vehicle? Watched an episode of "Doomsday Prepper" a while back, and one of the segments was on a guy who designed his dream "but-out" vehicle. My 15 year-old son and I were sitting enjoying chips and salsa at Chili's last night and started talking about what a cool (if somewhat impractical) project it would be to do something like that. Now, I'm no hardcore doomsday prepper :noid like on those shows, but I do love a good armageddon story, and if I was wealthy, I could totally see myself doing a project like this just for the heck of it.
So, how would I start? My first thought would be to buy an old armored car. I'd raise it up a few inches and make it a 4x4. It would have an inverted-V plow on the front, for pushing debris and wrecked cars aside, and a winch. Oh, and don't forget the run-flat tires. I'd make it duel-fuel capable (gasoline and propane, I think), and it would include about a 100 watt solar array on the roof for keeping the over-sized battery pack charged. The entire thing would need to be have an overpressure system, with filtered air intake, so it could traverse areas with environmental hazards in a buttoned-up configuration. Metal shutters that could be attached to the outside of the windows would also be prudent, and a periscope with night-vision option for use when the shutters are down. Inside would be several months worth of dehydrated food, water (with a water filtration system), weapons storage, a small galley, and room for six to sleep. Just for good measure, I'd put a remotely operated gun turret on the roof, with dual Siaga-12's on it...for crowd control.
Sooooo, what did I miss?
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don't forget to reinforce the bottom of that thing...use a composite armor system with layers of steel, kevlar and carbon fiber. it won't keep the thing upright but an ied will be less likely to kill everyone inside.
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I would think a diesel with the ability to run off of vegetable oil would be a better fuel setup..
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maybe a funnel on the roof for catching rain water leading into the filtration and purification system
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Richard Hammond tested this Marauder on Top Gear. It should fit the bill nicely including the IED protection. Search for the episode on youtube.
(http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Paramount-Marauder.jpg)
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I'd include a small dual purpose bike that would be mounted to the truck.
Would be useful for scouting,hunting and backup or secondary transport. Modified with a gun mount, a nice double barrel coach gun on the bars and a case to carry the hunting/snipe rifle.
:salute
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In some parts of the world Doomsday came a long time ago. I'd look to the third world for inspiration on what works in a world that doesn't. Probably a Toyota pickup truck "technical" with a couple of MGs and some improvised armor, but not too much weight. Still needs to carry a whole lot of stuff for me/family to survive. Perhaps even a small trailer to carry more stuff.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6522756063_be180f80ee_z.jpg)
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If you could find a medium sized 4x4 school bus, that would be perfect.
(http://chainslap.smugmug.com/Miscellaneous/2012-Overland-Expo/i-D3x2HQK/0/L/IMG0064-L.jpg)
Other than that a 4x4 Class B truck and build a custom body. Big enough to haul plenty of people and gear and still able to use it as a shelter.
(http://www.amesz.com.au/upload/pages/12-17-seater-amesz-4wd-coach/346x260-2005_OTBK_II_a.JPG)
But if you want the real deal, you want the Landmaster from Damnation Alley.
(http://www.drivingenthusiast.net/sec-blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/landmaster.jpg)
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In some parts of the world Doomsday came a long time ago. I'd look to the third world for inspiration on what works in a world that doesn't. Probably a Toyota pickup truck "technical" with a couple of MGs and some improvised armor, but not too much weight. Still needs to carry a whole lot of stuff for me/family to survive. Perhaps even a small trailer to carry more stuff.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6522756063_be180f80ee_z.jpg)
District 9 was a great movie, however i'd take some one of the bigger trucks.
Possibly this one.
(http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_Casspir_Mechem_Demining_lg.jpg)
Also, you could go and buy one of the trucks made at Oshkosh Truck Inc. - Preferably the MATV, paint it a straight black and mount a .50 cal on top and you're good to go. For about 20 miles. :lol
(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID11005/images/MATV-14.jpg)
I live about half a mile from the assembly plant in Oshkosh, so getting one for myself could be rather easy as my friend's dad works there. :devil
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(http://www.lrgaf.org/guide/Austrian%20soldier%20with%20Haflinger%20pack%20horse%20travelling%20through%20the%20Alps.jpg)
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These bigger vehicles are going to consume a lot of fuel. Preferably I'd have something with a small turbo-diesel, or even better, a good old high-compression asthma-diesel.
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(http://www.lrgaf.org/guide/Austrian%20soldier%20with%20Haflinger%20pack%20horse%20travelling%20through%20the%20Alps.jpg)
This wins! Plus you can eat it if needed :devil
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These bigger vehicles are going to consume a lot of fuel. Preferably I'd have something with a small turbo-diesel, or even better, a good old high-compression asthma-diesel.
True but along with that you get more hauling power and better protection. Its like trading an apple for an orange.
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On further thought I would start with one of these. You can customize the back anyway you want. If the world goes down the crapper there will not be any parts or fuel anyway, but it might just get you out of harms way. But a RV would be way less conspicuous to those who might want your supplies ala walking dead.http://www.ebay.com/itm/M923-military-5-ton-cargo-truck-with-winch-and-troop-carrier-cover-no-reserve-/281155677512?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41762f2d48 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/M923-military-5-ton-cargo-truck-with-winch-and-troop-carrier-cover-no-reserve-/281155677512?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41762f2d48)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/M923-military-5-ton-cargo-truck-with-winch-and-troop-carrier-cover-no-reserve-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ywoAAOxy1NxSDYly/$(KGrHqJHJFcFIMr7)M6-BSDYl)nm,!~~60_14.JPG)
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True but along with that you get more hauling power and better protection. Its like trading an apple for an orange.
Fuel will quickly become very scarce. What good is extra hauling power and protection if you're forced to leave the vehicle half-way to your destination?
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Fuel will quickly become very scarce. What good is extra hauling power and protection if you're forced to leave the vehicle half-way to your destination?
That all depends on where your destination is. I'm not going to be traveling 2000 miles cross-country so I can go live in the desert. I'd more than likely just head 400 miles out to the middle of nowhere and lay low. I'd probably only have to fuel up twice through the entire trip.
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Depending on the nature of the Armageddon an electronic controlled vehicle can be disabled by an EMP burst. That is why the military chose the H1 hummer with a Diesel with the mechanical Diesel injection pump. No electronics needed to run the engine.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn61/x556mm/Berserker90sml.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/x556mm/media/Berserker90sml.jpg.html)
Or with a good Dirt Bike when the roads are clogged with broken down vehicles or obstacles.
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc98/omeratwood/Bikes/motorcycle-25.jpg) (http://media.photobucket.com/user/omeratwood/media/Bikes/motorcycle-25.jpg.html)
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Yeah, my zombie survival plan is to steal others' supplies.
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Yeah, my zombie survival plan is to steal others' supplies.
a friend of mine likes to stock pile ammo as he believes the apocalypse is near. he always boasts that he will make a lot of money selling ammo. I just casually mention to him that I would shoot him in the head then take his ammo for free, based on his expression, he hadnt thought of that.
semp
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I would look at the design from this stand point.
What can I destroy with large caliber rifle weapons and small home made explosives.
What are the weakest points with the overall design.
Tires. Motor. Vehicle skin. Fuel. Glass. The list goes on and on from here.....
Bio fuel or a propane redesign for the motor... And the older the better IMHO no electronics too worry about is better in the long run for simplicity of keeping it in working order.
Tires get the honeycomb tires which are not inflated... Have 4spares on the vehicle.
Motor needs at least 1inch thick steel plates surrounding the compartment.
Anything I can break with a hand tool needs to be removed and reinforced.....
I wouldn't even know where to start, this was me just posting a :aok about this post because I like the redesign process but I can see where I would write a small book in this post lol.
Very cool post :salute
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If it's the zombie apocalypse you generally don't need much armor. If it's some natural disaster you don't need much armor. A civil war is the only "Doomsday" scenario that would require a militarized vehicle of some sort, but even then America isn't going to turn into Afghanistan overnight.
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a friend of mine likes to stock pile ammo as he believes the apocalypse is near. he always boasts that he will make a lot of money selling ammo. I just casually mention to him that I would shoot him in the head then take his ammo for free, based on his expression, he hadnt thought of that.
semp
I would give him my money. It's not like money's going to be worth anything more than toilet paper after the apocalypse... Toilet paper is probably going to be more valuable. This friend of yours clearly isn't too bright.
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If it's the zombie apocalypse you generally don't need much armor. If it's some natural disaster you don't need much armor. A civil war is the only "Doomsday" scenario that would require a militarized vehicle of some sort, but even then America isn't going to turn into Afghanistan overnight.
Doesn't the average American household have 2 weapons (guns) ?
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What about it?
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What about it?
In any sort of pandemonium I expect everyone too have a "I shoot first find out if your friendly later" mentality.
For zombies I just want a really big cow catcher! :D
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Doesn't the average American household have 2 weapons (guns) ?
the average american holds none in some places while in some others they could supply a guerrilla. I know plenty of people who own no guns and have no intention of ever owning one.
semp
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During the Bosnian civil war most people (myself included) could travel quite safely as long as they stayed clear of the front lines.
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Civil wars aren't everybody taking out their guns and shooting at the neighbors. There are factions, usually rebels vs. government, and a whole lot of civilians caught in the middle. Driving around in a militarized vehicle might get you killed simply for looking like a combatant.
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If it's the zombie apocalypse you generally don't need much armor. If it's some natural disaster you don't need much armor. A civil war is the only "Doomsday" scenario that would require a militarized vehicle of some sort, but even then America isn't going to turn into Afghanistan overnight.
Look up what happened during hurricane Katrina. That is a good example of what will happen in large urban when you remove the sense of law and order. Military looking vehicle is going to get alot of attention from the people who want to steal your stuff. The winabago that looks like it was rejected by Gypsies not so much.
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Depending on the nature of the Armageddon an electronic controlled vehicle can be disabled by an EMP burst. That is why the military chose the H1 hummer with a Diesel with the mechanical Diesel injection pump. No electronics needed to run the engine.
Has it got a cranking handle? :D
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Fuel will quickly become very scarce. What good is extra hauling power and protection if you're forced to leave the vehicle half-way to your destination?
You fool! Haven't you watched Mad Max? Everyones going to speed in gas guzzling V8s, burning 10 gallons for every 5 gallons obtained by highway murder.
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Has it got a cranking handle? :D
Electronics =/= electrics.
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You fool! Haven't you watched Mad Max? Everyones going to speed in gas guzzling V8s, burning 10 gallons for every 5 gallons obtained by highway murder.
:lol
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Instead of a car everyone wants to have, better to have a car no one would want in a survival type situation: :rolleyes:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_J3gTO_far3k/S-nd4STk-CI/AAAAAAAAF40/HdOm86Aa_JE/s1600/polka+dot+car.jpg)
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Honestly, a light aircraft with a door gunner would be invaluable. Nobody really has the wherewithal and equipment to bring down an aircraft, and its so useful. Something Storch-like would be ideal.
However fuel is the issue. Realistically, you're only going to be able to stockpile and keep secure enough fuel for a few months of operation. Large stockpiles are just too vulnerable to theft/explosives.
Thus my thinking; I'll just steal what I need.
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So often overlooked is the fact that most fuels have a limited shelf life; it's perishable. The cheap crap we put in our cars will turn into vaseline in a matter of weeks. After a few months all fuel stockpiles will be useless for anything other than making candles. Aviation fuel is more stable, but that too will perish eventually. Alcohol will be the best fuel in the long run I think.
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Bio-diesel. FTW
(http://biowillie.com/bw/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bobandwillie-e1336361899798.jpeg)
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Our Jeeps should suffice.....
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1097918_10151748843343971_1846038859_o.jpg)
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Our Jeeps should suffice.....
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As a TJ owner I can say the vehicle is more than up to the task but you won't be able to pack much more than a box of Chiclets if (like me) you have a famy of four. And the fuel mileage ispoor at best, lift tires armor and recovery gear put me around 15 mpg when I ddon't go offroad.
Nice pic though, where is that? We don't have that kind of open space wheeling here, just tivht pinstripe trails. Natural bugout features though. For those that get into that thought process. I just like getting out where others can't\don't.
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Lots of pictures of huge vehicles... I think my first priority would be reliability and maintainability. If the tire can't be changed by one person using hand-operated tools easily carried in the vehicle itself, then it's not a good choice for a personal survival vehicle IMHO.
I think I'd probably start along the lines of a heavy duty chebby Tahoe, upgraded suspension, 4wd, with whatever motor runs on the largest selection of fuels. A flex fuel motor might be able to be run on a mix of gasoline and home-brewed alcohol, but post-apocalypse America might have a good supply of kerosene and diesel so it might be a good idea to have a diesel motor that could be swapped in. So your survival vehicle would need a simple enough electrical system to allow a motor swap. Better yet, gut the entire electrical system of the car and install dual hard-wired wiring harnesses to the motor so you completely eliminate all control modules and computers for the car. Basically you take your SUV and gut it no different than you would a purpose-built race car, and re-do a very simple electrical system that can be repaired with wire and tape instead of expensive computer modules.
A basic utility truck chassis might be a great place to start. Anything you can't fix yourself, and anything electrical that will disable the vehicle if it fails, needs to be removed and replaced with something simpler. And you'll need a big bin full of any spare parts you can't make yourself, like fuel/oil/water pumps, injectors, spark plugs, etc.
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Something to consider - if you expect it to run after an EMP, it better not have a single computer needed to run the motor and transmission. Any decent sized EMP will pretty much melt anything with a coil in it, and burn out any electronics. So you'll need to be able to repair/replace every electrical component from very basic parts.
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Electronics =/= electrics.
Thanks for your input Mr Witless. :rolleyes:
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Maybe you could just sing your way outta trouble there, Rich :D
:cheers: Oz
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Simple...........the toyota 4runner with diesel.
Depending on the year, you can probably find one that will still run after huge EMP but earlier is better in that case.
If you're really worried about EMP, you could get an earlier engine like the old mercedes 5 cylinder or nissan LD28 which requires no electronics but have to remember that EMP can take out even an alternator.
Maybe an international or rover with nissan LD28 conversion.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/1991-1996_Toyota_4Runner_%28LN130R%29_wagon_01.jpg/800px-1991-1996_Toyota_4Runner_%28LN130R%29_wagon_01.jpg)
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Thanks for your input Mr Witless. :rolleyes:
You are so very welcome.
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Nice pic though, where is that? We don't have that kind of open space wheeling here, just tivht pinstripe trails. Natural bugout features though. For those that get into that thought process. I just like getting out where others can't\don't.
The Rubicon.... This is Eddie Oh's crew running out of S. California. I've been to Moab, but not to the Rubicon. I don't expect to get there anytime soon either. At least in Moab, if you fly in, you can rent a rig (typically a lifted JK running 35" rubber). It isn't inexpensive, but it beat driving across the country in the rig you're going to go playing in.
Most of the 4 door JKs seen are running 37" tires, needed to have the same break-over as a 2 door running 35s. Likewise, 35s to equal the 2 door on 33s. That's one of several penalties of the long wheel base. The advantages include the obvious increase in storage and better stability on steep climbs and descents.
My JK, running 33s (which is what I run 95% of the time), with a leveling kit gets up to 24 mpg on open roads, and about 16 around town. If I bolt on the 35s, mileage goes to hell. For two reasons, the biggest being that factory gears are not tall enough for the tires and you have to keep you boot in it a lot. I've found that the small advantage of 35" tires in terms of diff clearance aren't enough to offset the loss of relative power and poor fuel mileage. Besides, my 33" Coopers had no trouble with nearly 3 feet of snow last February. Plows were stuck, by the JK just chugged right on by. If I encounter an obstacle that requires more ground clearance, I find a way around it. I'm not into beating up my equipment just to climb over something ridiculous. 30 years ago with my much modded CJ5 or 20 years ago with my crazy YJ, maybe. Not anymore. Those Jeeps were hobby Jeeps, the JK is also my daily driver.
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Richard Hammond tested this Marauder on Top Gear. It should fit the bill nicely including the IED protection. Search for the episode on youtube.
(http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Paramount-Marauder.jpg)
Great episode. I particularly like when he was illegally parked and they tried to tow him LMAO
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I don't mean to party poop this vehicle fantasy thread, but I can't imagine a disaster where you wouldn't be better off hidden in a shelter / bunker and riding it out. If plop meets fan how can you expect the next or next after that tank full of gas. Anyone know how to pump it out of a petrol station with no power and also secure yourselves while doing it (obvious location for an ambush)?
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Maybe you could just sing your way outta trouble there, Rich :D
:cheers: Oz
LOL, nice one, Oz. Music calms the savage beast, eh? :rock Seriously, I didn't think this would get this much attention, but I should have known better with this crew. The idea behind this was a bug-out vehicle that could get a family out of an urban environment and sustain it for some period of time. The preferable situation would be to have an isolated bug-out location to go to. Some interesting ideas and thoughts here, to be sure. One possibility no one mentioned regarding the fuel issue is the use of a wood-gas generator, mounted on the vehicle. You'd only need wood or similarly combustible fuel to feed it with. I've even seed a rig that you tow behind the vehicle you're powering with it, such that it would be your back-up fuel source in a flex-fuel vehicle. :salute
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I don't mean to party poop this vehicle fantasy thread, but I can't imagine a disaster where you wouldn't be better off hidden in a shelter / bunker and riding it out. If plop meets fan how can you expect the next or next after that tank full of gas. Anyone know how to pump it out of a petrol station with no power and also secure yourselves while doing it (obvious location for an ambush)?
You build a trap door in the bottom of the 4x4 bugout bus and drive over the tank. Then drop down, break the lock, insert hose and pump it out with onboard power. The bus is your cover. You also can carry a 1000's of gallons with a bus vs smaller vehicles, so fewer times you need to refuel. There's not much you can do about an ambush except avoid them as much as possible.
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You can buy something that would from here, they even have tanks
http://www.armyjeeps.net/index.htm (http://www.armyjeeps.net/index.htm)
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Like this I suppose.
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If you have to go big...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M35_2%C2%BD-ton_cargo_truck
Great off-road capability and a multifuel engine.
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A mid-sized 4x4 diesel bus or truck is the best solution. You can always tow smaller support jeeps, ect. You're going to want high endurance with cargo capability and living space. You have to be self-sustaining just like a ship at sea until you reach the next port.
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If you have to go big...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M35_2%C2%BD-ton_cargo_truck
Great off-road capability and a multifuel engine.
The 5 tons are nicer. You can change tire pressure in cab and power steering, brakes.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-REBUILD-M923-MILITARY-5-TON-6X6-MILITARY-TRUCK-2229-miles-m923a1-m35a2m925/190893723563?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D979841855254357810%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281155677512%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-REBUILD-M923-MILITARY-5-TON-6X6-MILITARY-TRUCK-2229-miles-m923a1-m35a2m925/190893723563?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D979841855254357810%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281155677512%26)
I have seen these at govt. auctions cheaper.
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Anyone here spent any time driving a Ford Mutt?
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The 5 tons are nicer. You can change tire pressure in cab and power steering, brakes.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-REBUILD-M923-MILITARY-5-TON-6X6-MILITARY-TRUCK-2229-miles-m923a1-m35a2m925/190893723563?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D979841855254357810%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281155677512%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-REBUILD-M923-MILITARY-5-TON-6X6-MILITARY-TRUCK-2229-miles-m923a1-m35a2m925/190893723563?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D979841855254357810%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D281155677512%26)
I have seen these at govt. auctions cheaper.
As long as you can put a multifuel engine in it that would be perfect. It can probably carry 10 tons without problems as these trucks are pretty over-engineered (the duce and a half is rated for 4.5 tons on-road). A ton or two of armor and guns, 3-4 tons of fuel, 5 tons of supplies and equipment.
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A buddies RV I work on. Nice to bug out in style and capability. :aok
(http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv15/d0nwaters/fordchinook_zps80239aae.jpg) (http://s665.photobucket.com/user/d0nwaters/media/fordchinook_zps80239aae.jpg.html)
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a friend of mine likes to stock pile ammo as he believes the apocalypse is near. he always boasts that he will make a lot of money selling ammo. I just casually mention to him that I would shoot him in the head then take his ammo for free, based on his expression, he hadnt thought of that.
semp
LOL
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I believe this has a slight advantage from the 80's TV series "The Highwayman":
(http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/highwaymanstealth_resized.jpg)
(http://s4.hubimg.com/u/78379_f496.jpg)
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This friend of yours clearly isn't too bright.
Well, he is a friend of semps, so you can't expect a rocket scientist.
ack-ack
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Transport
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Food
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0Q2WHNF5NUQ/UadnVrj4Z9I/AAAAAAAAWQI/6nBYOj6orjo/s200/cartoonRod.png)
Protection
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Transport
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Food
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0Q2WHNF5NUQ/UadnVrj4Z9I/AAAAAAAAWQI/6nBYOj6orjo/s200/cartoonRod.png)
Protection
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That third pic had "bad photoshop" written all over it.
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That third pic had "bad photoshop" written all over it.
that's ok by me...guns are optional anyway :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :D
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that's ok by me...guns are optional anyway :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :D
Now that I think about it...
Am I the only one that would be listening to music on my rooftop with a 24 pack of beer, while watching the whole world go down the crapper?
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I believe this has a slight advantage from the 80's TV series "The Highwayman":
(http://images.hemmings.com/wp-content/uploads//2009/09/highwaymanstealth_resized.jpg)
(http://s4.hubimg.com/u/78379_f496.jpg)
Yee gads, I remember that series! The cab was actually the front end of a helicopter that could take off and leave the rest behind in an emergency. The one time they actually did that in the series, someone shot at it like 10 seconds after it was airborne, miraculously hitting a fuel or oil line and bringing it down only a couple miles from when it took off from. Potentially cool idea that failed spectacularly in execution. :joystick:
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RAAAIIIIDDDDDDD!!!!!!!
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Everything you need is right here in one video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5TQUdcYk82U
Hot chicks with purple hair and mini-skirts included.
Steering Wheel!!!!
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(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/blogs/6a00d8341bf67c53ef017d3d759ecf970c-800wi.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Apollo_CSM_lunar_orbit.jpg/305px-Apollo_CSM_lunar_orbit.jpg)
(http://www.conspiracyguy.bravepages.com/conspiracyguy3/secret_email/july_emails_2012/july_pictures_2012/nasa/apollo%2011/3C_lunar_module2.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ed/Apollo15LunarRover.jpg/800px-Apollo15LunarRover.jpg)
(http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/IMAGE-of-A7L-spacesuit.jpg)
Plus a bunch more oxygen, food and consumables.... Enough for about a month until things go more to hell, or things work themselves out.. Either way, the moon is a safe place if
you leave aside that it's an airless, life sucking vacuum devoid of anything remotely useable for survival.. Look at it like this.. You'll be the only one within 250,000 miles....