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Title: the debate
Post by: Scared on September 29, 2020, 11:00:29 PM
I am a registered independent. I used to lean right until the orange buffoon took office. now I am not sure. I watched the debate tonight. it was an serial liar vs senility. I can't vote for a liar, I guess I will vote for Harris. Not happy about it, but ethics means something and Trump is about as unethical as can be. But then again, he is not a law professor like our last president. Hmm. Imagine that.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: 100Coogn on September 29, 2020, 11:32:40 PM
IN...
Coogan
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: LCADolby on September 29, 2020, 11:36:57 PM
Politics is like having to choose which turd you want to rub on your face. So keep it out of the game and BBS :old: :salute
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 29, 2020, 11:50:27 PM
This will not end well. sir.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: RAG on September 30, 2020, 03:38:49 AM
Screw your heads on and vote for the party that the person represents. Thankfully that's what happened in England recently and we were saved from sure hell :aok
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 03:59:29 AM
some guy at the legion said who gives a crap, i said i do. it means my wife's life and mine.
semp
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Shuffler on September 30, 2020, 04:44:24 AM
There is always Venezuela. Since you love that lifestyle so much.... just move.
Be sure to take your pets for your next meal.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Volron on September 30, 2020, 07:06:35 AM
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: avionix on September 30, 2020, 07:21:06 AM
In
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Eagler on September 30, 2020, 07:49:31 AM
Durham report .. sure hope it is released before it is shredded.
<S>
Eagler
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Slade on September 30, 2020, 08:37:42 AM
How to tell if you are in a cult (politically):
* You believe no bad news on your candidate can be true. * You only believe ideas from your favorite candidate\party and see all other ideas as wrong. * You only listen to news sources that agree with your point of view and they almost never have anything bad to say about your favorite candidate\party.
You are allowed to know the truth. Just listen to multiple and diverse news sources. :old:
The Media Bias Chart can be helpful: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc (https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc)
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Shuffler on September 30, 2020, 08:55:13 AM
* You believe no bad news on your candidate can be true. * You only believe ideas from your favorite candidate\party and see all other ideas as wrong. * You only listen to news sources that agree with your point of view and they almost never have anything bad to say about your favorite candidate\party.
You are allowed to know the truth. Just listen to multiple and diverse news sources. :old:
The Media Bias Chart can be helpful: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc (https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc)
Name one. There are no true NEWS sources anymore.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: perdue3 on September 30, 2020, 09:11:49 AM
Also, how can someone who is slightly left of center love the lifestyle of living in an authoritarian regime? "Leaning Left" does not mean communist just like "Leaning Right" does not mean Fascist, ya dig?
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Copprhed on September 30, 2020, 09:28:22 AM
There is always Venezuela. Since you love that lifestyle so much.... just move.
Be sure to take your pets for your next meal.
Or you could stay here with a p***y grabbing liar who couldn't tell the truth if God was standing in front of him, and his porn queen potato of a wife.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 09:40:41 AM
Good thing I'm uncontrollably outspoken and political in the extreme. :old: :headscratch:
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Eagler on September 30, 2020, 09:54:37 AM
The debate last night was sad for the country.
It is concerning either one of them is going to run the country for the next 4 years.
Afraid the US peaked some time ago and we as a nation are in the downhill slide..
Eagler
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Shuffler on September 30, 2020, 10:06:20 AM
Also, how can someone who is slightly left of center love the lifestyle of living in an authoritarian regime? "Leaning Left" does not mean communist just like "Leaning Right" does not mean Fascist, ya dig?
PBS no, very liberal.... the other I have no idea.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Copprhed on September 30, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
:bhead
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: perdue3 on September 30, 2020, 10:13:44 AM
PBS no, very liberal.... the other I have no idea.
This is simply not true. I am not sure how one can actually test the bias of something if one is also biased (so keep that in mind during this discussion). I will give you a link that contains a study which included random citizens to take a survey. To be included, they had to be familiar and regular watchers of various news outlets.
The study may be bogus, but I have watched PBS News quite a bit recently and it is very objective. The news is delivered fairly, without bias, and without commentary from either political side. We all know that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox are the worst outlets for news as it is not actually news but propaganda deliveries. So, if those are your basis, that is pretty accurate so long as they reside on the far end of the bias spectrum.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Chris79 on September 30, 2020, 10:20:16 AM
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: ACE on September 30, 2020, 10:26:57 AM
Big small business guy here, both suck. However based on tax plans I have no choice but to keep it going the way it is. The economy under Donald is fantastic.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Volron on September 30, 2020, 10:45:35 AM
This is simply not true. I am not sure how one can actually test the bias of something if one is also biased (so keep that in mind during this discussion). I will give you a link that contains a study which included random citizens to take a survey. To be included, they had to be familiar and regular watchers of various news outlets.
The study may be bogus, but I have watched PBS News quite a bit recently and it is very objective. The news is delivered fairly, without bias, and without commentary from either political side. We all know that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox are the worst outlets for news as it is not actually news but propaganda deliveries. So, if those are your basis, that is pretty accurate so long as they reside on the far end of the bias spectrum.
PBS is very liberal
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Slade on September 30, 2020, 12:17:48 PM
Quote
Name one. There are no true NEWS sources anymore.
Use the link I posted. Here it is again: The Media Bias Chart: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc (https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc)
Also, and more accurately, I wrote this article on how to find the truth in media (as bias is to be expected to a degree):
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Hajo on September 30, 2020, 12:24:21 PM
I am from a time when the News was reported without spin. Cronkite, Huntley- Brinkley and Edward R. Murrow. The networks at that time weren't being paid to influence politics etc. They determined that the American people were intelligent enough to make up their minds without spin or propaganda. If you think about the process we don't choose who runs for President. The keyword is RUNS. The final candidate is determined by how much money and now how much propaganda can be pedaled. Reporting the news is different now especially cable news. Their credo is "We'll say/spin anything you want for the money." Doesn't have to be the truth at all. The problem is now with social media being prevalent anything can be said without proof and can be slanted in any direction. Common sense is not prevalent in today's society. The search for truth is not used and is right in front of everyone's' face. If someone states something positive for the side they like they believe it, it should be is this the truth? Cable News is useless. Even major networks and predominant news journals can be bought. Hey! It's more dollars! They've become entertainment now instead of fact. With all the trials that went on, the impeachment etc.that the public was able to witness apparently it didn't help to inform. It was ignored and shouted down. Pres. Trump was charged with obstructing justice while the other candidate, after having her records subpoenaed were destroyed or deleted. Why wasn't she charged with obstructing justice? When you ask yourself why did she destroy and delete media such as hard drives and cell phones? The only answer there was something that could incriminate her. Why wasn't she charged with obstructing justice?
We have no presidential candidates that WE picked. Who determines who is to represent their party?
They are selected by those with money and power that have something to gain by the candidate they back. Since the candidate, whoever they may be, if elected is behooving to those who financed his campaign. Wake UP! Yes they have voting in states to select a candidate but against money and power that is useless. This is what our elections have degenerated into. Heck even Sanders was paid off to stay out. The people have lost control of who gets to run. Are you going to tell me that these two now running are the best to serve? Biden 30 t0 35 years ago would be a viable option. Not now. We're the victims lack of common sense and the search for the truth, of social media, cable News Networks, even major networks and major daily news journals.. Don't be a victim. It's all about money and power, not serving the people of the united states. And this includes all political elections now unfortunately. It's our fault. What Thomas Jefferson said 200 years ago is true. That's chiefly why we have the second amendment.
We leave these people in office for 20 to 30 years, some more so and they can't help to be corrupt. Who wants to leave the gravy train? Term limits would be an excellent start imho. The Senate and House would have to vote on a measure to limit the amount of time they serve. You think they would pass that? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Devil 505 on September 30, 2020, 12:24:32 PM
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Shamus on September 30, 2020, 01:07:40 PM
When Citizens United blew McCain Feingold out of the water the handwriting was on the wall. Its only going to continue to get worse until Citizens United is done away with.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Copprhed on September 30, 2020, 01:39:22 PM
Big small business guy here, both suck. However based on tax plans I have no choice but to keep it going the way it is. The economy under Donald is fantastic.
So you're basically saying you'll let the country burn and sell your soul to Satan if he makes sure you get your money. BRILLIANT!
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Copprhed on September 30, 2020, 01:41:30 PM
And Hannity, Pirro et al are just upstanding journalists.... idiocy just keeps growing, along with racism, white supremacy and Putin worship. You're a credit to your kind, shuffler.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Eagler on September 30, 2020, 01:52:56 PM
And Hannity, Pirro et al are just upstanding journalists.... idiocy just keeps growing, along with racism, white supremacy and Putin worship. You're a credit to your kind, shuffler.
As are you if you believe your post
Resisting arrest does not equal racism
Biden is the russia and china puppet
They need to win to kill the investigation of the attempted coup after the 16 election
But hell with all that "orange man bad" right?
Eagler
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: CptTrips on September 30, 2020, 01:55:06 PM
They need to win to kill the investigation of the attempted coup after the 16 election
But hell with all that "orange man bad" right?
Eagler
Trump was not exonerated, Meuller was not allowed to indict him. Barr is a traitor to his country, and an embarressment to his profession. He is the perfect example of why ETHICS must be taught, as he has none. You are misguided by your own hubris, as is the bad orange man. President Bonespurs, who denigrates servicemen and REAL heroes,whose wife did nude lesbian bondage and discipline pictures, along with a spread in the adulterer's plane, who lies incessantly(woe be to those gullible enough to believe them) is doom to this country. Racism and white supremacy will not win. We beat it in 1865, and it will lose again. You support a man who would not say ANYTHING bad about a group of white men, carrying torches and yelling "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!" You support someone who pays less taxes than you, more than likely illegally. When he is out of office, there is a room waiting for him at Attica.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Eagler on September 30, 2020, 02:24:47 PM
You have heard of the durham report right?
It clears the admin as the basis of the investigation was garbage
But believe what you want
Neither turd on stage last night should be potus but the dems should face the music of their failed overthrow attempt
Eagler
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 02:26:43 PM
some people don't know what coup really means but they always throw it around.
semp
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 30, 2020, 02:29:38 PM
Trump was not exonerated, Meuller was not allowed to indict him. Barr is a traitor to his country, and an embarressment to his profession. He is the perfect example of why ETHICS must be taught, as he has none. You are misguided by your own hubris, as is the bad orange man. President Bonespurs, who denigrates servicemen and REAL heroes,whose wife did nude lesbian bondage and discipline pictures, along with a spread in the adulterer's plane, who lies incessantly(woe be to those gullible enough to believe them) is doom to this country. Racism and white supremacy will not win. We beat it in 1865, and it will lose again. You support a man who would not say ANYTHING bad about a group of white men, carrying torches and yelling "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!" You support someone who pays less taxes than you, more than likely illegally. When he is out of office, there is a room waiting for him at Attica.
You shouldn't be believing everything you hear on different networks or read on the internet
The digital age has made most everyone nieve, gullible and ignorant to what is actually going on in the world
I think this thread should be locked..... no, I think it should be completely deleted from the forum
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Eagler on September 30, 2020, 02:31:25 PM
"a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government"
It was an illegal attempt to overturn a presidential election by the opposing party
Close enough def for me
Eagler
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 02:43:27 PM
"a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government"
Point of order, sir. It says and ... not or. That and impeachment proceedings are still constitutionally legal as are investigations for committing acts that warrant such.
*This has been a post on legality and not politics. Carry on and may the mute-proof shroud be with you.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Lusche on September 30, 2020, 02:43:40 PM
You guys over there deeply terrify me.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: CptTrips on September 30, 2020, 02:45:05 PM
I think this thread should be locked..... no, I think it should be completely deleted from the forum
It doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything worthwhile. There's nothing productive in it that supports the game or community and it doesn't even provide a decent non-game related distraction (and it specifically goes against rule 14).
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 03:13:11 PM
If you base your opinion on who you want to elect by watching a debate. You are grossly misinformed and should not vote because obviously you are using emotion rather than facts to make a decision.
It is sad and pathetic what our media has done to this country.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 03:22:01 PM
I am honestly confused at how providing opportunity zones in bad cities so people can find jobs, talking with black colleges to find solutions, creating prison reform, lowering payroll taxes so companies can hire more people, giving Americans bail out money, talking with scientist making vaccines, working to bring back the American spirit is "Fascsim".
I swear I feel like some of these people have been taken over by aliens. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 03:30:51 PM
it's actually worst than you think. thousands want a revolution to satisfy their ego. the number of people who believe in lizard people is growing. it's a sad time.
semp
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Ramesis on September 30, 2020, 03:31:24 PM
I am a registered independent. I used to lean right until the orange buffoon took office. now I am not sure. I watched the debate tonight. it was an serial liar vs senility. I can't vote for a liar, I guess I will vote for Harris. Not happy about it, but ethics means something and Trump is about as unethical as can be. But then again, he is not a law professor like our last president. Hmm. Imagine that.
imho... the debate was a draw and I AM an independent... in politics, lying is what all politicians do to get into office (local, state and fed)... both lied in one way or the other by skewing the facts into their favor... However, I do lean towards Pres. Trump... either way, I think the U.S. is going the way of other past countries (with the exception of China) and be a failed state :salute
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 03:53:28 PM
47 years vs 47 months.
Take your pick.
This election is not about a debate.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: perdue3 on September 30, 2020, 03:56:53 PM
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
you guys give way too much to your position "leaders". last nite was awful. either guy could have pounced the other. both too self centered and could not seize the opportunity. the next will probably be as difficult to sit though. hopefully the trainers do a better job getting them ready for the fight.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: BoilerDown on September 30, 2020, 04:27:47 PM
I don't know why people are beating around the bush here.
Proud Boys = Brown Shirts "stand by" means plan for a Night of the Long Knives
DJT plans to end our republic if he loses the election. He told it to our faces last night. Its now impossible for anyone of moral character to vote for him.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: perdue3 on September 30, 2020, 04:28:02 PM
This is simply not true. I am not sure how one can actually test the bias of something if one is also biased (so keep that in mind during this discussion). I will give you a link that contains a study which included random citizens to take a survey. To be included, they had to be familiar and regular watchers of various news outlets.
The study may be bogus, but I have watched PBS News quite a bit recently and it is very objective. The news is delivered fairly, without bias, and without commentary from either political side. We all know that CNN, MSNBC, and Fox are the worst outlets for news as it is not actually news but propaganda deliveries. So, if those are your basis, that is pretty accurate so long as they reside on the far end of the bias spectrum.
i have watched pbs for 25 years. the current organization and staff is aimed at progression. not simply unbiased news. They struggle to give both points of view, in washington. I can understand why. The character of the staff is naive or simply pissed off. I really miss Gwen. she was good.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 04:46:52 PM
I don't know why people are beating around the bush here.
Proud Boys = Brown Shirts "stand by" means plan for a Night of the Long Knives
DJT plans to end our republic if he loses the election. He told it to our faces last night. Its now impossible for anyone of moral character to vote for him.
LOL. You guys are insane.
So if someone comes and burns down your neighbors house, then loots and burns down your favorite restaurant. Then your city defunds the police and says the US Military and national guard are not allowed to stop the people burning down your neighborhood. What are you suppose to do?
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 05:04:48 PM
what part of that article has anything to to with the topic of " every news is fighting for your dollar and mind?"
How about you post a link to the past 10 episodes of npr. then we can discuss what they did and did not say. and formulate a better assumption about how honest and unbiased their program is. Even a list of their segments would begin to paint the picture.
Pbs has always programed from a higher education institutional point of view.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 05:07:30 PM
what part of that article has anything to to with the topic of " every news is fighting for your dollar and mind?"
How about you post a link to the past 10 episodes of npr. then we can discuss what they did and did not say. and formulate a better assumption about how honest and unbiased their program is. Even a list of their segments would begin to paint the picture.
Pbs has always programed from a higher education institutional point of view.
No, burden of proof fallacy.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: The Fugitive on September 30, 2020, 05:09:59 PM
I am from a time when the News was reported without spin. Cronkite, Huntley- Brinkley and Edward R. Murrow. The networks at that time weren't being paid to influence politics etc. They determined that the American people were intelligent enough to make up their minds without spin or propaganda. If you think about the process we don't choose who runs for President. The keyword is RUNS. The final candidate is determined by how much money and now how much propaganda can be pedaled. Reporting the news is different now especially cable news. Their credo is "We'll say/spin anything you want for the money." Doesn't have to be the truth at all. The problem is now with social media being prevalent anything can be said without proof and can be slanted in any direction. Common sense is not prevalent in today's society. The search for truth is not used and is right in front of everyone's' face. If someone states something positive for the side they like they believe it, it should be is this the truth? Cable News is useless. Even major networks and predominant news journals can be bought. Hey! It's more dollars! They've become entertainment now instead of fact. With all the trials that went on, the impeachment etc.that the public was able to witness apparently it didn't help to inform. It was ignored and shouted down. Pres. Trump was charged with obstructing justice while the other candidate, after having her records subpoenaed were destroyed or deleted. Why wasn't she charged with obstructing justice? When you ask yourself why did she destroy and delete media such as hard drives and cell phones? The only answer there was something that could incriminate her. Why wasn't she charged with obstructing justice?
We have no presidential candidates that WE picked. Who determines who is to represent their party?
They are selected by those with money and power that have something to gain by the candidate they back. Since the candidate, whoever they may be, if elected is behooving to those who financed his campaign. Wake UP! Yes they have voting in states to select a candidate but against money and power that is useless. This is what our elections have degenerated into. Heck even Sanders was paid off to stay out. The people have lost control of who gets to run. Are you going to tell me that these two now running are the best to serve? Biden 30 t0 35 years ago would be a viable option. Not now. We're the victims lack of common sense and the search for the truth, of social media, cable News Networks, even major networks and major daily news journals.. Don't be a victim. It's all about money and power, not serving the people of the united states. And this includes all political elections now unfortunately. It's our fault. What Thomas Jefferson said 200 years ago is true. That's chiefly why we have the second amendment.
We leave these people in office for 20 to 30 years, some more so and they can't help to be corrupt. Who wants to leave the gravy train? Term limits would be an excellent start imho. The Senate and House would have to vote on a measure to limit the amount of time they serve. You think they would pass that? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I miss the old days. Well said Hajo <S>
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 05:13:32 PM
I don't know why people are beating around the bush here.
Proud Boys = Brown Shirts "stand by" means plan for a Night of the Long Knives
DJT plans to end our republic if he loses the election. He told it to our faces last night. Its now impossible for anyone of moral character to vote for him.
I appreciate you posting your fantasies here but it would be better to be grounded in facts.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
how does your phrase "burden of proof fallacy" apply?
"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo."
you mean the soul that dives us all? the biased individual soul that is driven by emotion?
not that there is any thing wrong with that. the end is love, and the key to life. unfortunately, it also leads to bias.
the beauty of npr, in the past was the emotion driven reporting. giving the unheard human perspective. even in better days they were bias. bias for good.
It kept the donors happy. and me too. but i never sent a check. i just sat though the phone-in segments.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 05:41:22 PM
Yeah. Thought so. Carry on. :D
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 05:41:56 PM
oh yes violator the reptilian people, how can somebody don't believe that.
semp
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 05:47:41 PM
oh yes violator the reptilian people, how can somebody not believe that.
Remember 'V: The Final Battle?' (before DS was born) :D
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: LCADolby on September 30, 2020, 06:37:17 PM
Did I really just read in this thread that non-profit = unbiased reporting? This thread needs to be shut down before more stupid escapes into the open.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 06:41:54 PM
Did I really just read in this thread that non-profit = unbiased reporting? This thread needs to be shut down before more stupid escapes into the open.
At least attribute your rebuke and criticism correctly.
"They are all fighting for your dollar and mind." was the phrase that begged for the response that NPR and PBS are non-profits.
I say that any bias on the part of both PBS and NPR leans toward fact and not fantasy.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 07:21:19 PM
oh yes violator the reptilian people, how can somebody don't believe that.
semp
What I posted had nothing to do with reptilians. This is a short fact based documentary that you nore anyone can deny. Quite frankly, its not a joke either.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: NatCigg on September 30, 2020, 07:21:45 PM
What I posted had nothing to do with reptilians. This is a short fact based documentary that you nore anyone can deny. Quite frankly, its not a joke either.
you seriously think this is the first administration to be against it? you think q is the first to bring up this conspiracy? look up mcmartin preschool, except you will be disappointed, no reptilians there.
semp
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 08:50:03 PM
you seriously think this is the first administration to be against it? you think q is the first to bring up this conspiracy? look up mcmartin preschool, except you will be disappointed, no reptilians there.
semp
They sure as hell never wrote or 9 exec orders and solved border control. Someone had 47 years to do that.
that was awful last night. A guy would need a Phd to make sense of that yack.
either side could take the win. on to round 2!
The debate was crenge worthy. Though, if you base your decision on voting over that debate (will be 2 more). Than I feel sorry for you. Who honestly expected a normal non entertaining debate?
I dont want to discuss strategy because I don't want to get political talking about each candidate. I'm just pointing out that the debate is a show, not actual reality of what is going on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 08:56:25 PM
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Busher on September 30, 2020, 09:19:24 PM
This Discussion is so laughable.
The way you guys are going, I predict that illegal immigration as a problem will be replaced by mass emigration. If ya can't beat the "proud boys", it pays to run. :bolt:
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: TequilaChaser on September 30, 2020, 09:35:05 PM
haven't checked out your link, but I thought it involved both seagrams-heiress sisters for bank-rolling that whole cult (DOS, ESP, etc etc.... "VOW") think HBO is running a documentary about that whole thing ...
haven't checked out your link, but I thought it involved both seagrams-heiress sisters for bank-rolling that whole cult (DOS, ESP, etc etc.... "VOW") think HBO is running a documentary about that whole thing ...
I completely Agree
Yes, convictions are coming. People in those actual cults are very involved in taking down Trump. These are the people all of us should be furious at. Taking down these disgusting criminal networks is something we should all get behind. These are the real Nazis. Go look up NXVM ideology and the woman involved with neurolingustic programing. Their slaves were told they were nazis reincarnated.
What did he say last night in those debates?
"We have them all on tape"
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Arlo on September 30, 2020, 10:34:48 PM
Well, that was predictable. :old:
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on September 30, 2020, 10:47:15 PM
Yes, convictions are coming. People in those actual cults are very involved in taking down Trump. These are the people all of us should be furious at. Taking down these disgusting criminal networks is something we should all get behind. These are the real Nazis. Go look up NXVM ideology and the woman involved with neurolingustic programing. Their slaves were told they were nazis reincarnated.
What did he say last night in those debates?
"We have them all on tape"
so which executive order was used to convict her? that's right none, laws that were on the books years ago were used. it just happened this case happened in past 2 years. a cult was involved that existed for decades. while sad, it's got nothing to do with what you are trying to prove.
by the way look Manson, it was the same thing but that lead to murder. guess executive orders stopped that too.
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Title: Re: the debate
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 30, 2020, 11:46:42 PM
so which executive order was used to convict her? that's right none, laws that were on the books years ago were used. it just happened this case happened in past 2 years. a cult was involved that existed for decades. while sad, it's got nothing to do with what you are trying to prove.
by the way look Manson, it was the same thing but that lead to murder. guess executive orders stopped that too.
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It's been around for decades, and no one did a damn thing until someone took office and did something about it.
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: guncrasher on October 01, 2020, 12:35:34 AM
It's been around for decades, and no one did a damn thing until someone took office and did something about it.
because nobody knew about it. not until the last 3 years when victims came and went to authorities, it had been suspected for years but nothing had been proven. I am pretty sure they didnt see a big sign up in the sky about the 9 executive orders and said, hey the laws changed.
there has been dozens of cults over the years with this same sick idea and there will be dozens in the next decades. to say it authorities just started paying attention is not even close to reality.
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Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Bruv119 on October 01, 2020, 03:51:21 AM
I didn't watch it but from the news reports of it, how on earth did the worlds greatest nation come to a choice between those two.
sad times indeed. UK is no better either. Meanwhile China virus is killing the west economically and we are powerless to stop it. Apart from washing our hands, face and space. :ahand
Title: Re: the debate
Post by: Spikes on October 01, 2020, 07:29:37 AM
I didn't watch it but from the news reports of it, how on earth did the worlds greatest nation come to a choice between those two.
sad times indeed. UK is no better either. Meanwhile China virus is killing the west economically and we are powerless to stop it. Apart from washing our hands, face and space. :ahand
People got arrogant and allowed a corrupt cabal to take over their countries by falling for the socialist lie of using your humanitarian emotion against you. Those families i posted above in sex cults have groomed some leaders and have been black mailing our politicisns for years with honey traps. Now you are seeing what happens when a president gets elected who is trying to stop them and expose them. 15 news agencies attack him every single day no matter what he says or does. When I was in High School, everyone joked about how stupid politicians were. This was a ploy that allowed the governments to committed serious corruption while looking like dumbos in the media because the media is complicit and anyone who exposed real corruption got killed or even look at Julian Assange right now.
I am desperately trying to get people to wake up to the real connections so we can fight back and expose these people. Thanks to our current president, albeit he's not the classiest guy we've ever had. The American spirit and national spirit around the world is stronger than ever to take down the globalist enterprise trying to rob us all with their NWO UN agenda 21 using global warning and covid to steal from us and shut us down.
Watch some Amazing Polly videos on YouTube and you can see the connections and people involved in the global Healthcare racket and technology silicon valley racket that is purposely trying to destroy the west economies to usher in the UN Agenda.
You are seeing what happens when real patriots fight back. We will not allow our country and constitution to be subverted. We have ended wars in the middle east. Put ISIS to sleep. And are creating peace deals in the middle east. You never hear about that very much because the media is complicit and paid off by foreign rich terrorist.
Here's a perfect example of how propaganda is used to divide Americans.
People got arrogant and allowed a corrupt cabal to take over their countries by falling for the socialist lie of using your humanitarian emotion against you. Now you are seeing what happens when a president gets elected who is trying to stop them and expose them. 15 news agencies attack him every single day no matter what he says or does. When I was in High School, everyone joked about how stupid politicians were. This was a ploy that allowed the governments to committed serious corruption while looking like dumbos in the media because the media is complicit and anyone who exposed real corruption got killed or even look at Julian Assange right now.
I am desperately trying to get people to wake up to the real connections so we can fight back and expose these people. Thanks to our current president, albeit he's not the classiest guy we've ever had. The American spirit and national spirit around the world is stronger than ever to take down the globalist enterprise trying to rob us all with their NWO UN agenda 21 using global warning and covid to steal from us and shut us down.
Watch some Amazing Polly videos on YouTube and you can see the connections and people involved in the global Healthcare racket and technology silicon valley racket that is purposely trying to destroy the west economies to usher in the UN Agenda.
You are seeing what happens when real patriots fight back. We will not allow our country and constitution to be subverted. We have ended wars in the middle east. Put ISIS to sleep. And are creating peace deals in the middle east. You never hear about that very much because the media is complicit and paid off by foreign rich terrorist.
Here's a perfect example of how propaganda is used to divide Americans.